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Bug#657297: marked as done (www.debian.org: please show more type of events, e.g. talks/sprints/IRC-meetings)



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regarding www.debian.org: please show more type of events, e.g. talks/sprints/IRC-meetings
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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
User: events@debian.org
Usertags: events-announce

Hi there!

This bug originated on the debian-www@ mailing list [1][2] and it was
then recently re-discussed on #debian-events, thanks to Paul Wise, so
let us going on and define what we want on the Events page.

[1] <http://lists.debian.org/20111027154810.GA1685@zouish.org>
[2] <http://lists.debian.org/1320116110.27179.21.camel@chianamo>

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:48:22 +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
> Sorry for the delay in replying this: Luca is talking here about the idea
> to have, in www.d.o/events page, not only the list of upcoming event but
> also one for upcoming talk (it happens often that there are interesting
> debian-related talks not included in a major event and we discuss during
> Debconf the possibility of better promoting them).

Actually, as I partly wrote in [3], there are 4 types of events:

1) what is called now 'event', i.e. conferences or BSP, which means that
   Debian is present with a booth or is organizing the event.

2) talks, which while being a subset of the first point, it stresses on
   the fact that Debian is "showing" something.  The fact that we have
   Debian members available for such a task [4] without keeping note of
   their talks is a pity.

3) sprints [5], something specific to Debian, which since their creation
   have seen very useful results.

4) IRC meetings, not only the Debian-specific ones [6] but also the
   others Debian-related [7], i.e. every time there is a Debian
   participant, similarly to the first point.  These should provide
   links in the canonical IRC URI scheme [8].

[3] <http://lists.debian.org/87ty63t6r9.fsf@gismo.pca.it>
[4] <http://www.debian.org/events/speakers/>
[5] <http://wiki.debian.org/Sprints>
[6] <http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20120116.155705.ae5a0f4c.en.html>
[7] <http://lists.debian.org/4F0ECC5E.9000307@ubuntu.com>
[8] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat#URI_scheme>

Francesca's work below is about the second point, but IMHO which should
directly to further and implement all four points.

First question: which should be the layout?  I guess something like the
4-side for the 'Getting Debian' section [8] would be the best, but I
fear that on small screens everything would be too much packed.

[9] <http://www.debian.org/distrib/>

> Here some explanations about how that part of the site works and what
> I've done in the past months about it (hoping that people who already
> knows all this will not too bored).
>
> Relevant files for this kind of change are:
>
> 1) webwml/english/events/index.wml → this is the source for
>    www.d.o/events which contains the list of upcoming (and past) events
>
> 2) webwml/english/events/index.include → here there are Perl subroutines
> (embedded in wml tags) needed to create the (upcoming|past) events lists
> themselves and are called at lines 22 and 43 of the index.wml file
>
> 3) all webwml/english/events/$year/$date-event.wml files, which are
> modeled on the webwml/english/events/event.form one
>
> 4) webwml/english/template/debian/event.wml and
> webwml/english/template/debian/event_common.wml: this two are the
> templates responsible of the design of each event page and - as it could
> be seen on event.form file - are called via #use wml::debian::event line
>
> So, we need first to create the file(s) (and relative templates) for each
> talk (using the same structure as the event ones) and then add
> subroutines (or change the existent ones) in order to generate also list
> for upcoming and past talks.
>
> For the first task, I've simply create templates
> (webwml/english/template/debian/talk.wml and
> webwml/english/template/debian/talk_common.wml) copying them from the
> event's ones; while the file itself for a single talk is based on the
> webwml/english/events/talk.form file, in which is shown the use of the
> define-tag for talk.
>
> This part of the patch is completed and it works. You can test it using
> the file webwml/english/events/2011/0422-slat.wml (attached).
>
> The second part of the patch needs love: my Perl-fu is unexistant, so I
> encountered some problems in make it works.
>
> To list also talks file on index.wml page (or better in the html page)
> I've added two specific subroutines adapting the existing ones and
> modifying the index.wml page.
> The idea here was to distinguish between talk and event file (they lie in
> the same $year directory) via a regexp based on the use of different
> templates. But I can't make it works: I need that the upcoming_events
> thinghie distinguish between upcoming and past event AND upcoming and
> past talks. 
>
> Obviously we could also put talks and events files on different dir
> inside the $year dir: something like $year/events and $year/talks, and
> let Perl to parse only the relevant dir. I prefer the first solutions,
> but... is up to who will work on it! :)

Second question: while I prefer Francesca's solution of having
everything in one single folder, ordered by date (as it is now), what
do other people think about that?

> ps: I attach new files and the diff of the existent ones.

These files are available at [1].

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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tags 657297 + wontfix
thanks

Hi there!

On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 05:23:56 +0200, David Prévot wrote:
> Le 25/01/2012 07:39, Luca Capello a écrit :
>> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:48:22 +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
>
>>> Sorry for the delay in replying this: Luca is talking here about the idea
>>> to have, in www.d.o/events page, not only the list of upcoming event but
>>> also one for upcoming talk
>
> Since there doesn’t seem to be any team willing to update the
> ww.d.o/events section any more [2], is this issue still relevant?
>
> 	2:
> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/webwml/webwml/english/events/index.wml?r1=1.43&r2=1.44

Good catch, bug closed, but as a wontfix since the solution has been
implemented in another "package" (wiki.d.o).

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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