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Bug#646150: www.debian.org: please define a policy for event locations



tags 646150 + patch
thanks

Hi there!

On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 06:39:45 +0200, Paul Wise wrote:
> [Please CC me in reply]

Done.

I have started to document this on a wiki page [1], I will wait one more
week before sending an RFC to the d-publicity@ mailing list.

[1] <http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Events/Policy>

> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Luca Capello wrote:
>> In the second case, AFAIK the current policy is "CITY, COUNTRY" and it
>> has been like this for the events since 1999, with some exceptions like
>> "PHYSICAL_LOCATION, CITY, COUNTRY" (with PHYSICAL_LOCATION being the
>> building or the institution) or "CITY, STATE, COUNTRY" (especially true
>> for some USA locations).
>
> I would like as much specificity as possible in the location
> information, possibly even including GPS co-ordinates of the
> reception/start point and or a link to OpenStreetMap or the map
> provided by the event organisers if any exists.

Fully agreed, if we want as much specificity as possible the
PHYSICAL_LOCATION should be included, so the tag would be (information
in brackets are optional):

  [PHYSICAL_LOCATION,] CITY [(STATE_ABBREVIATED)], COUNTRY, GPS_COORDINATES

However, all these information can cause the line in the event page [2]
to be too long.  Just imagine for FOSDEM 2007 [3] (discussion about the
date format is at #650378 [4]):

- [February 24th - 25th] Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, Brussels, Belgium
+ [February 24th - 25th] Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, ULB Campus Solbosh, Brussels, Belgium, +50.812650;+4.380320
+ [February 24th - 25th] Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, ULB Campus Solbosh, Brussels, Belgium, 50.812650 N 4.380320 E
+ [February 24th - 25th] Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, ULB Campus Solbosh, Brussels, Belgium, 50°51'0"N 4°21'0"E

[2] <http://www.debian.org/events/>
[3] <http://www.debian.org/events/2007/0224-fosdem>
[4] <http://bugs.debian.org/650378>

Here my proposition which I will add to the wiki as well:

a) the requirement for the tag is the line above.

b) PHYSICAL_LOCATION should be a *single* building or institution,
   without any comma, so in the example above not "Université Libre de
   Bruxelles, Campus Solbosh", but "ULB Campus Solbosh".

c) GPS_COORDINATES must be present and in a standard form: despite me
   not being able to find a reference [5], I would say that the form
   should be 'DEGREES MINUTES SECONDS CARDINAL-DIRECTION' (with symbols
   instead of spaces).  FYI, Wikipedia's city page for Brussels [6] use:

   * 50°51'0"N 4°21'0"E
     when in a graphical browser (Iceweasel) 

   * 50°51'0"N 4°21'0"E / 50.85°N 4.35°E / 50.85; 4.35
     when in a textual browser (w3m)

   I do not know which map these coordinates should be linked to either:
   the one linked to by Wikipedia is GeoHack [7], which seems a good
   option also because it offers the possibility to create a link with
   "custom" coordinates [8].  If we should choose a real map, then I
   will go for OpenStreetMap [9].

[5] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_system>
[6] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels>
[7] <https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/GeoHack>
[8] <http://toolserver.org/~geohack/>
[9] <http://www.openstreetmap.org/>

d) the event page [2] will show only the second and third fields, which
   means CITY (plus STATE if present) and COUNTRY, while each specific
   page [3] will have everything.

I stop here for today :-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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