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Re: Bug#643647: lists.debian.org: please create debian-events-announce



Hi there!

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:48:52 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 09/28/2011 08:50 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
>> On Wed Sep 28, 2011 at 12:52:09 +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
>>> Package: lists.debian.org
>>> Severity: wishlist
>>> Usertags: debian-events
>> 
>> i would like to veto against the creation of such a mailing list.
>> 
>> Rationale: 
>> 
>> we do have lists like debian-news or debian-announce, which are IMHO
>> apropriate for news like this. I am quite sure, the publicity team will
>> help you with spreading your event news on seperate news announcements
>> on the d-news@ldo list.
>
> +1

I do not have any problem with that, now that this has been documented.
And thank you Martin and Bernd for the veto, I prefer to re-use
already-established resources as well :-)

As I wrote in my first email, what concerns me the most is the
following:

>>> Post Policy:
>>>     Restricted to some teams: Events (all of the members), Publicity
>>>     (basically, the Press team) and WWW (if someone wants to).
>>>     In principle, those who can commit to www.d.o/events/ should be able
>>>     to send a post as soon as they add a new event.
>>>
>>>     Alternatively, posting can be restricted to the Events and Press
>>>     team only, using the following workflow: whoever adds a new event
>>>     also sends the announcement to the debian-publicity@ list for
>>>     reviews, then a member of the Events and Press team posts that to
>>>     this new list.

I do not want to have another write access at any cost, but the fact
that the Events team should wait for someone else to formally announce
an event is IMHO a bad workflow, especially considering that most of the
time there is not enough manpower, both in the Events and in the
Publicity teams (please correct me if I am wrong).

I was also thinking about "automatic" notifications/emails based on CVS
commits on the www.d.o/events/ pages, but 1) it should be implemented
and 2) I am not sure the WWW team and/or DSA would be happy.  This
problem is orthogonal with the list, so let us discuss it later on.

> Depending on the event d-announce or d-news is a better place for such
> announcements, indeed.

I would be against any split based on the kind/importance of event: the
rationale for the request is exactly to have a central point, while now
we have the debian-events-*@, the debian-news@ and the debian-publicity@
mailing lists, as well as personal blog posts.  Frankly speaking, I do
not care if it is debian-announce@ or debian-news@, but my preference
would go to the latter, given its description.

What does the Publicity/Press team think about that?

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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