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Re: Suggestion - Minor changes to main page for now



! Please CC me as I am not subscribed to the debian-www mailing list !

On 06/14/2010 12:50 PM, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>  First of all - please be patient with us. We are working on this
> voluntary, and sometimes it can happen that lengthy mails take their
> time to reply to. :)
I'm sorry for that post. I checked the web archives and there seemed to
be some spam that I was afraid my first email got hidden under. I
apologize.
>> Whichever ones that do work from [1] seem to have major changes (or are
>> written from scratch?). I'm not sure of the process, but I think these
>> changes can't be accepted or applied very soon.
> 
>  From what I understood most of them only change minor bits just like
> your suggestion. Otherwise I agree with you, they won't be pratcial to
> adopt. E.g. I started with getting Kalle's propsal to work on
> <http://www.deb.at/index.en.html>
I saw that and, in my opinion, that is the kind of great first impress a
great distro's website should have! I'm guessing, however, that it
changes the layout too much for a quick approval. I am not suggesting
the layout I posted be used, but I'm just saying minor changes should be
made soon.
>> So I'd like to suggest that only small changes are made to the layout
>> to remove the not-so-nice parts. I've done a quick and very rough job
>> of making one such design. [2]
> 
>  It is an interesting approach and looks sweet, though there are some
> things that itch me a bit: The blue text and the red headlines are a bit
> too much, and personally I dislike dotted links instead of clearly
> underlined.
I was a bit unsure of that myself when I first put it up. I've changed
that now. [1]
>> I'm far from an expert in these field and don't think my changes are
>> great. However, the intention of this email is to suggest that only
>> small changes (not necessarily mine) are made soon to the CSS to make
>> the website look a bit better.
> 
>  See Kalle's proposal, it doesn't have too deep changes and it comes
> with a patch that makes it clear what needs to get changed (and is
> already changed on the above site).
To simplify things, I've attached one for the example layout I posted
previously with a few changes so that only the css files needs to be
patched. (I hope a `bzr diff` serves as one, I have not used the diff
from diffutils)

[1]: http://www.umang.ath.cx/debianwww/

Umang
=== modified file 'debian.css'
--- debian.css	2010-06-14 11:38:43 +0000
+++ debian.css	2010-06-14 11:42:34 +0000
@@ -6,6 +6,7 @@
 	background-color: #FFFFFF;
 	margin: 0 4px 0 4px;
 	padding: 0;
+	font-family: LiberationSans, Helvetica, Arial, Verdana;
 }
 
 img { border: 0; }
@@ -77,17 +78,11 @@
 /* upper nested header box*/
 #upperheader {
 	width: 100%;
-	margin-top: 11px;
+	margin: 18px 0 10px 53px;
 	height: auto;
 	background: #FFFFFF;
 }
 
-#logo {
-	float: left;
-	margin-left: 6px;
-	background: #FFFFFF;
-}
-
 #serverselect {
 	float: right;
 	display: block;
@@ -156,33 +151,12 @@
 	padding-top: 6px;
 	padding-bottom: 4px;
 	width: 100%;
-	height: auto;
+	height: 3px;
 	text-align: center;
 	background: #BF1238;
 }
 #navbar ul {
-	display: inline;
-	list-style-type: none; 
-	padding-left: 0px;
-	line-height: 1.5em;
-}
-#navbar ul li {
-	display: inline;
-	margin: 0;
-	white-space: nowrap;
-}
-#navbar a {
-	color: #FFFFFF;
-	text-decoration: none;
-	padding: 0.2em 0.4em 0.2em 0.4em;
-	background-color: #000084;
-	border: 1px solid #000084;
-	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
-	font-weight: bold;
-	font-size: 0.9em;
-}
-#navbar a:hover {
-	background: #0000CC;
+	display:none;
 }
 #navbar .hidecss, .hidecss {
 	display: none;
@@ -199,6 +173,7 @@
 #inner {
 	margin: -2px;
 	margin-top: 0;
+	margin-bottom:20px;
 	width: 100%;
 	background: #FFFFFF;
 	/* overflow: auto; */
@@ -210,19 +185,15 @@
 	padding-left: 0;
 	padding-bottom: 1em;
 	width: auto;
-	background: #BBDDFF;
 	font-size: 0.9em;
 	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
-	border: 1px solid #BBDDFF;
 	/* overflow: auto; */
 }
 #leftcol a:link, #leftcol a:visited {
+	text-decoration:none;
+	color:#1133ff;
 	display: block;
 }
-#leftcol a:hover {
-	background-color: #DDEEFF;
-	/* background-color: #FFFFFF; */
-}
 #leftcol ul {
 	margin: 2px;
 	padding: 0;
@@ -248,6 +219,11 @@
 	font-size: 0.9em;
 	margin: 0;
 }
+#leftcol>ul>li>a {
+	border-bottom: 3px solid #BF1238;
+	padding-bottom: 3px;
+	margin-bottom: 3px;
+}
 #leftcol ul li a {
 	line-height: 1.2em;
 	padding-right: 0.5em;
@@ -278,6 +254,25 @@
 #leftcol ul ul .menuselected {
 	text-indent: 0.5em;
 }
+
+h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
+	font-family: Verdana, LiberationSans, Helvetica, Arial;
+}
+
+hr {
+	color: #BF1238;
+	background-color: #BF1238;
+	height:2px;
+	border:none;
+}
+#maincol a:link, #maincol a:visited, #maincol a:hover, #maincol a:active {
+	color:#1133ff;
+	border-bottom:1px solid #BF1238;
+	text-decoration:none;
+}	
+#maincol a:hover {
+	background-color: #ffaabb;
+}
 #maincol {
 	background: #FFFFFF;
 	margin-left: 12em;
@@ -315,17 +310,26 @@
 	bottom: 0;
 	text-align: center;
 	margin: 0px;
+	font-size: 0.80em;
+}
+#footer a {
+	text-decoration:none;
+	color: #1133ff;
 }
 
 #fineprint {
 	margin-top: 0.2em;
 	padding-top: 3px;
 	text-align: center;
-	font-size: 0.85em;
+	font-size: 0.90em;
 }
 
-#outer>#inner { border-bottom: 1px solid #BFC3DC; }
-.bordertop { border-top: 1px solid #BFC3DC; }
+#outer>#inner {
+       border-bottom: 3px solid #BF1238;
+}
+.bordertop {
+       border-top: 1px solid #BFC3DC;
+}
 
 dl.gloss dt {
 	font-weight: bold;
@@ -704,7 +708,7 @@
 	text-align: right;
 }
 
-#leftcol, #navbar, #navbar a {
+#leftcol {
 	-moz-border-radius: 15px;
 	-webkit-border-radius: 15px;
 	/* these go to the end as the css validator does not like them


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