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Re: How vendor pages are maintained?



Hello,

sorry for processing the submitted requests so infrequently! I am planning 
to clear the backlog in the next days!!

The thing is that this is tiresome manual work that few people apart from 
me want to do. IMHO, Debian users will leave money with the vendors, so I 
should try to ensure that the offers are not bogus/malicious, that people 
really get an official image, etc. CD/DVD vendors often put insufficient 
info on their pages. Some spammy people just put up some random 
Debian-related page and hope to get a high-pagerank link from the 
debian.org website. Others create multiple shops under different URLs and 
try to gain an unfair advantage by being listed multiple times.

[Slightly related: Some more automation would be possible to ensure that we 
only list up-to-date vendors - weeding out old entries also takes quite 
some time. To do that, we'd need to require vendors to include fixed 
strings for each type of image, so the pages can be scraped automatically 
to look for these strings.]

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 07:47:46PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > Secondly, many thanks for your attention and kind reply. Finally, to be 
> > honest, yes; I've passed all of the steps with particular care.
> 
> Do you know where we can see your submitted info.

The form data is sent to cdvendors@d.o, which is not a mailing list, it's 
just forwarded to a couple of people; csmall, possibly Josip and Phil 
Blundell(?) - I don't really know. :-| Listmaster should be able to get 
people added/removed.

> he does.  (csmall used to update it.  FYI anyone here with web write 
> access can change such web page but we do not have access to needed 
> information and I do not think as the owner to do it. ) Anyway, waiting 
> for 2 months is not long for how it is managed. I CCed him.

It is kind of long for an online shop owner, I feel bad about this... I 
recently started a new job and moved to another country, which didn't 
exactly help. There should be more active people behind the cdvendors@ 
alias.

IIRC we had those mails go to debian-cd once upon a time, but people didn't 
like that for some reason, probably because of the noise it created on the 
list. As far as I'm concerned, it would be OK to move to a public list.

Cheers,

  Richard

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