Am Mittwoch, den 08.10.2008, 11:29 +0200 schrieb Hans F. Nordhaug: > * Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@deb.at> [2008-10-08]: > > Working file: english/MailingLists/debian-announce.wml > > revision 1.8 > > date: 2008-10-04 10:56:22 +0200; author: hansfn; state: Exp; lines: > > +1 -1; commitid: U3dCj1iqvJtlWhlt; > > Fixing URLs - www.foldoc.org/foldoc/foldoc.cgi redirects to > > foldoc.org/foldoc.cgi > > > > Please do *NOT* just change such stuff in english. This is nothing that > > translators should be bothered with. Please use the smart_change.pl > > script that is there for exactly this reason. This is nothing > > translators would have to review ... > > First of all - my sincere apologizes to all translators wasting time > on this. It were only some few ones, most translators aren't that timely and I caught it when taking a look at the german outdated pages so the harm wasn't too big. > I had nothing but good intensions (and realised just after > commiting the change what the side effects were). And thanks to you, > Gerfried, for making me aware of smart_change.pl. It's a topic that pops up every now and then with new people stumbling into the web team. Not sure if it's possible to avoid such errors completely, but if there are suggestions on how to reduce them for future newcomers. > Actually, it was you Gerfried that lead me on the "wrong" path in the > message about the urlcheck, tidy and validate logs: Yes, I should have mentioned it in the mail directly - sorry about that. :/ > I have a suggestion so this doesn't happen again. > > Translator often find errors - HTML validation error, typos and so - > when doing their work. And some translators are also developers and > not afraid of fixing (or "fixing") stuff in the English part. On > http://www.debian.org/devel/website/translation_hints it's a link to > http://www.debian.org/devel/website/working in the first line. Maybe > add in bold font something like: > > Please do just change stuff -- typos, HTML validation errors, dead > links and so -- in English. Either ask on debian-www list or read > *carefully* the page about working on the web pages. Hmm, I would go with "... limited to translations, *especially* when you think about changing stuff not only in your own language tree but also in english." I now see that <http://www.debian.org/devel/website/working#links> doesn't mention smart_change.pl at all ... It's above it in the Etiquette for editors, but not here. Not sure right now how to improve the wording in that area, have to think about it. Sugestions of course are welcome. :) > Or maybe I'm the only one that has made this mistake. No, you are not the only one. frankie did the problem just recently too, and the issue is popping up on the list every now and then. Maybe translation coordinators could mentor their newcomers better too, not sure. So long, and sorry for jumping yet again. Rhonda P.S.: Ccing you because not sure wether you are subscribed, sorry if it's a double - I only expect from translation coordinators to be subscribed here
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