Re: TLDP and Debian
Osamu Aoki wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 12:06:53AM +0100, Stein Gjoen wrote:
Hello,
I am member of The Linux Documentation Project (TLDP)
< http://www.tldp.org >
and am working on in improving coverage of the document
collection. Since both projects value freedom and aims at
producing free systems, I hope we can find a common interest.
Yes.
I have been busy installing Debian 3.0r1 the last few weeks
and noticed several tools had premade link lists such as
web links and RSS links.
TLDP was not listed many places I was looking.
Hmmm, you should have posted to debian-www@l.d.o if it is for web page.
My scope was rather wide but did also include web pages too.
http://www.debian.org
--> click Documentation on the left column
http://www.debian.org/doc/
--> You see HOWTOs and click
You have all the key TLDP document listed and index pages.
http://www.tldp.org/docs.html
The only thing missing is words "The Linux Documentation Project" for me.
I appreciate you brought up these links since some are outdated.
The old canonical site was < http://www.linuxdoc.org/ > but that
has now changed to < http://www.tldp.org/ > with language specific
sub sections in the way of, for instance < http://es.tldp.org/ > for
the Spanish language. More and more such sub sections are added,
currently there are about half a dozen.
Thus a link to < http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ > brings up (at
least on my machine) the front page with a warning that you are
accessing the document using an outdated link, providing the new,
improved link to what you sought. A global search for linuxdoc.org
might therefore be useful, not just on your web sites but also
in the software.
Would it be possible to have links added to
- TLDP home page
- ... with language specific pages listed
- TLDP Weekly News
- RSS feed (for our weekly news)
- link to TLDP archives on disk (Debian has an archive)
That should be addressed to debian-www@l.d.o (CCed)
This affects many packages, from web pages for web browsers and
ticker readers to premade web bookmarks and RSS lists. I simply
have no idea just how many packages there are and how I could
reach the maintainers efficiently. Rather than trying to file a
bug report for every package I am hoping that I can reach the
right people more efficiently here.
As for Mozzila, TLDP is preset link as I see it.
I checked with some of the other browsers and bookmark pages
such as Konqueror. There is also a set of ticker/RSS readers
(RSS for ticker services/syndication).
For each package you find (RSS thingy?), it may be best to file bug
report. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/
It seems fashionable to give cryptical names to software these
days, Konqueror, to take an example, does not sound like a web
browser tool, more like something to achieve world domination
with. So while I woul like to report bugs for what specific
packages I can find I am sure to miss quite a lot in 3.0 (are
there 8000 packages in 3.0?) and definitely a lot in unstable
which I am unable to install here.
I realise the situation is sub optimal and with a new version
coming up soon I hope this message can reach the right people
before the freeze.
Considering maintenence releases such as r1 do not include
updates of documentation it seems important to get this done
before next Debian release and I don't know the time tables
planned.
Actually, this is a good point. Current release process do not do this.
I wish release manager change their mind on release policy.
I tried advocating an exception for documentation but even
though at least my HOWTO was updated with security related
issues (denial of services by overflowing tmpfs) I was not
able to change this policy.
Release of sarge was planned on December last year. So I think it will
be soon.
I hope we can get the updates in before then.
Best regards,
Osamu
Best regards,
Stein Gjoen
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