Debian Dictionaries - last try
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Hi!
Beside the efforts to integrate the dicts into the main debian site
here now another effort to get answer about the dichts on debian-
women website.
Possible solutions:
1. Someone cares personally and contacts me about how things can be done
2. The dicts get upgrade automatically by me again - that was opposed
vehemently.
3. The dicts will be removed from d-w website totally, as it is not
possible to find a solution.
4. The dicts stay there mostly or totally uncared.
I am currently in work to set up svn to carry the program and the
dict files. Ideally it should be possible just to checkout things and
run the program with the given configs or a local one, if
makedictutf8 [1] [2] can be run on a given system.
As far as I can see, there will not be any dictd server on debian
systems so that access to the dictionaries with dict protocol can be
done only by accessing another system. But it might be possible to
have a nameserver entry for debian.net pointing to a dicht server.
The server, the dicts now are on will be replaced in soem weeks, and
I will work on that then.
So there is only need for the web pages at Debian Women website.
Contributions never went directly to d-w last months (maybe, because
those contributing do not have any access ther or are even not
involved in Debian Project or Debian-Women). Contributions have been
made by sending files to me or using the web interface at
www.witch.westfalen.de.
Therefore cutting off this way to get more languages and new entries,
cuts off the further growth of the dicts. That seems to be a fact.
Most people want a real human being to contact fot the dicts, it seems.
We can find any working compromize, if you want. But please do not
sent any other stop energy to the list just driving things down with
different non-arguments like "do not fit". All this discussion has
led the dicts at debian women website being unmaintained and made me
a lot of additional obviously useless work, getting everything
running on alioth, and a large amount of frustration. I am not
willing to let these useless discussions make me throwing down every
support I have given the debian project withing the last months. I
really do not want to be unfair to all those developers working
together with me on packages.d.o and www.d.o. Beside all the work
which ate my spare time and a whole holiday, I have had a lot of fun
working with them. And they have forced me to learn a lot I did not
know before to address all the needs and critics. It has been a very
good teamwork and I hope that can be continued, if I find enough time.
[1] makedictutf8.pl is currently using Unicode:Collate to sort the
dict entries. But the lingual sorting is not fully supported for alll
languages. So I have to add sorting overwrites for new languages
sometimes, and it may happen, that only one new entry makes the
program crash, because the sorting with Collate does not respect the
Word order correctly. The solution is ICU, but we did not find
something for perl supporting it. The sourceforge project, linked
everywhere does not exist any longer and seems to have vanished
totally. So the solution is using ICU togethere with python. and
create a totally new makdictutf8. But that needs the ICU package from
unstable... Here we are again at the same problem as before with perl
5.6 on alioth and the need of libraries from Perl 5.8. Making
compromizes here mostly means not to address all possible languages.
[2] The "utf8" in the program name only means, it supports utf8 and
uses it internally in some cases. It does not mean, latin1 is not
supported.
greetings
Jutta
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http://www.witch.westfalen.de
http://witch.muensterland.org
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