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Re: Proposal - Deferment of Changes from GR 2004-003



On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 03:54:30PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> On 2004-04-28 14:43:20 +0100 Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:

> >On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:43:15AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> >>>I am not particularly interested in providing a comprehensive list 
> >>>of
> >>>ballot options to cover all possible views of DDs, here.
> >>You are not interested in anything besides "back me or smack me"?
> >I'm interested in getting sarge's release schedule back on track in 
> >what
> >I deem the most efficient manner possible.  What are *you* interested
> >in?

> Generally, a wide range of things, including avoiding games of 
> "Resolution Tennis" and "decision by attrition" that I expect from 
> unruly student unions, not Debian. You may think there is "One True 
> Way" but it is likely that a significant number will be unhappy with 
> your route and if they feel they had insufficient voice, this trouble 
> will continue. Please interest yourself in being comprehensive, 
> building consensus and healing the rifts.

I really have no sympathy for anyone who claims they have insufficient
voice in this process.  Debian has an open GR process that any developer
can contribute to; the most support a developer needs to get for his
idea for it to appear on the ballot is five seconds, whether I agree
with him or not.  I certainly have not claimed that this is the "One
True Way" to fix the Social Contract, that this is the only proposal
that would meet the supermajority requirement, or that it's the only
proposal I will entertain; but it *is* the only proposal to have earned
the requisite number of seconds, which means it's the only one that's
actually moving the process forward in any measurable fashion to date.

So far, you have not offered any suggestions on how to improve the
actual proposal, opting instead to take pot shots at the manner in which
it was introduced and making inferences about my intentions.  Unless you
have something concrete to add, I don't intend to discuss this any
further.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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