Request for discussion: Deferment of Changes from GR 2004-003
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Hi
Please refer to the following messages, in which a General
resolution was proposed, and seconded:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00186.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00187.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00190.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00191.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00202.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00203.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00204.html
Time Line:
Proposal and Wednesday, April 28^th, 2004
amendment
Discussion Wednesday, April 28^th, Wednesday, May 12^th,
Period: 23:59:59 UTC, 2004 23:59:59 UTC, 2004
Voting Period Wednesday, May 12^th, Wednesday, May 26^st,
23:59:59 UTC, 2004 23:59:59 UTC, 2004
Please note that amendments may reset the discussion period and
change the time table.
Proposer: Steve Langasek [vorlon@debian.org]
Seconds: 1. Joe Wreschnig [piman@debian.org]
2. Stephen Frost [frost@snowman.net]
3. Scott Dier [sdier@debian.org]
4. Chad Walstrom [chewie@debian.org]
5. Pierre Machard [pmachard@debian.org]
6. Cesar Mendoza [mendoza@debian.org]
Text: The actual text of the GR is:
The Debian Project,
affirming its committment to principles of freeness for
all works it distributes,
but recognizing that changing the Social Contract today
would have grave consequences for the upcoming stable
release, a fact which does not serve our goals or the
interests of our users,
hereby resolves:
1. that the amendments to the Social Contract contained
within the General Resolution `Editorial Amendments
To The Social Contract' (2004 vote 003) be
immediately rescinded;
2. that these amendments, which have already been
ratified by the Debian Project, will be reinstated
effective as of September 1, 2004 without further
cause for deliberation.
Rationale
As a seconder of the earlier GR, I certainly do consider
these amendments to be editorial in nature, as they are
consistent with my understanding of the existing Social
Contract; and I believe these clarifications are
beneficial in the long term, because the ambiguities in
the Social Contract led mostly to sterile arguments about
whether the DFSG *should* apply to works we distribute
that are not programs.
It's just the timing that sucks.
In talking with the Release Manager, it is apparent to me
that his understanding of the previous wording of the
Social Contract, while different from mine, is internally
consistent; and that attempting to persuade him that a
different interpretation should have held would do
nothing to move the release forward, as I cannot in good
conscience argue that he should be less principled in the
enforcement of the Social Contract than he has been to
date. I am therefore putting forth this proposal because
my *own* principles hold that releasing sarge this year
with the same blemishes that have existed since the
beginning is better than releasing a sarge next year that
has no non-DFSG content.
A fixed four month period should (based on current
projections) give us ample time to release sarge, while
not allowing so much time that maintainers are left to
think that resolving the status of non-program components
of Debian vis à vis the DFSG is not an imminent concern.
Since this modifies the Social Contract, this requires a 3:1 majority
to pass.
- --
A comment on schedules: Ok, how long will it take? For each manager
involved in initial meetings add one month. For each manager who says
"data flow analysis" add another month. For each unique end-user type
add one month. For each unknown software package to be employed add
two months. For each unknown hardware device add two months. For each
100 miles between developer and installation add one month. For each
type of communication channel add one month. If an IBM mainframe shop
is involved and you are working on a non-IBM system add 6 months. If
an IBM mainframe shop is involved and you are working on an IBM system
add 9 months. Round up to the nearest half-year. --Brad Sherman By the
way, ALL software projects are done by iterative prototyping. Some
companies call their prototypes "releases", that's all.
Debian Project Secretary <secretary@debian.org> <http://www.debian.org/vote/>
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