Re: General Resolution: Handling of the non-free section: proposedBallot
On 2004-03-08 13:51:40 +0000 Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>
wrote:
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 01:37:31PM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
They are drivers for hardware which have the bug of not being free
software, but I think you knew that already.
Yeah, and what do you plan to do to help fixing that ? And do you not
think this is more important than some cosmetic change like the one
that
is proposed here.
I suggest those who want them fixed work on them. When I want them
fixed, I will work on them eventually. My time is too limited to do
much more: there are things I want more now that I'm not working on
yet. Agressive challenges from the likes of you do not make me want to
work on them, given your recent history.
At present, I have no such need for that hardware. If you do, then I
No, but i doubt you have access to the sourcecode of the bios you are
running, and maybe it is even possible that your system is not void of
non-free software.
Possibly I have non-free software lurking on here, but debian's social
contract means that any installed by debian is a bug. I do what I can
and fix them ASAP. A failure to achieve the goal doesn't mean that I
don't try.
think you should help to fix that bug, instead of writing to us
about how
unfair it is that some of us don't want to support a bug of someone
else's
driver any more.
Yes, i do, but there is nothing i can do about it. [...]
Sorry, I don't believe that we're boxed in yet. Even meeting a brick
wall just means the route became very steep or longer. You mention
possible actions to fix it, which are hard, but that doesn't mean it's
not worth trying them. I think there are other possible ones, but you
dismissed them previously.
And having a separate non-free.org archive will only give these people
reason, and be a reversal for the proponent of non-free software.
I don't understand this.
And i don't hear anyone proposing to drop non-free doing anything
against that, so two weight two measures ?
Maybe someone is, but there are none who reply to you any more?
IT is not ok for debian to
distribute non-free, but it is ok for debian to rely on non-free
binary
only third parties, some we are even involved with, to run on said
hardware.
I disagree.
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