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Re: Being concise [Re: Iso to Usb]



Andy,
THX A LOT! To the point; 
Booting in 32b, running 64.
Seen a lot i686, &/or 64b software in it that confused me.
Now I may have a solution.
If this old (definitely a Mac 2,1):
Ever revives from this malstrom.
It matters a bit, cos my macbook Pro won't come back in week/s.
I have a Debian admin book to read, though, while waiting. Will do better with VM e.g Virtualbox and Debian now I know it better than most Linux distros I tried. Stable & free r good arguments to take the pain. A strange adm book, though, that jumps over how to use Bash and Busybox in Debian Rescue Mode/s (Yes, there seems to be two; 1 deeper into Rescue mode > Crisis mode (Busybox) via f12 in startup, the other at 'shallow', first level, via choosing Rescue mode(Bash) in installer,  Maybe both are outside Debian? Challenge to write Exactly correct /sbin etc text in Bash to be recognised.
Now I'll get slashed, but virtual slashes can't bleed me out much
Geg

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021, 01:46 Andrew M.A. Cater, <amacater@einval.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 05:30:30PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> Hi,
> What are you asking for here ? Or trying to achieve ?
>
> On 2021-08-02 4:48 p.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote:
> > I cowarded out of Terminal, or not really, cos Gnome Multiwriter did it
> > in 5 minutes.
> > But later I`ll try it, if 64 bit doesn`t work in this old computer that
> > only Looks like a Mac. But is it, really? Not in my point of view; no
> Your point of view is irrelevant unless you are having a conversation
> with yourself.
>
> What make a computer a "Mac" or not a "Mac" is totally unrelated to the
> software you run on it. No one asked you "Do you run MacOS".
>
> What make your computer a Mac and still a Mac, and will be a Mac, was a
> Mac, continue to be a Mac is the plain fact that it's got produced on
> Apple's production line and is running all the software in ROM required
> to boot that make it a Mac. If it's not a Mac, then it's a PC and you
> either have BIOS or UEFI, which is not the case.
>
> > Mac software, except some hotkey functions, a pretty good keyboard,
> > so-and-so dvd player, & a Toshiba SSD (original or not; did SSD exist in
> > 2007? Who cares? Philosophy, history, or both? What's "both"?
> Yes SSD existed in 2007 and what's the point ?
>
> What's the link between SSD and what you are writing here ?
>
> You seem to be part of a one-man show...
>
> I've tried to give you a helping hand but don't seem much to get it.
>
> And as I've seen other have tried too.
>
> Linux is supported by dozen of architectures, does they all become PCs
> because they ain't running their original operating system. No they
> don't....
>
> > Psychology, haha; narrative philosophical walkthroughs PC pasts?)
> Only you seem to be making so deep heard philosophical problem with
> plain easy question
> > BR,
> > geg
>
> --
> Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
> -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development
>

Gunnar,

You have Mac hardware from almost exactly the right vintage to use a
specific for early Mac image. It boots in 32 bit EFI and then runs 64 bit.

https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel#Macmini_2.2C1

and the up to date Debian 10.10 image you need is at:

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-mac-10.10.0-amd64-netinst.iso

This may solve your problems for installing on Mac hardware of that vintage.
It may not solve other problems but it should, at least, get you something
consistent. [If this image works for you, you will be one of a very few
people running this on that particular model - an installation report
would be very valuable.]

As Polyna says - you have Apple Mac hardware. That has its own peculiarities.

On 3G of memory in total, you may find problems in running anything intensive.

I can only recommend Dan Ritter's advice to go away and read and to tackle one
problem at a time. Allow yourself time to get one stable Debian system
running on that hardware. 14 year old hardware is pushing the boundaries
on reliability but, as you've seen, it is a learning experience.

All best, as ever,

Andy Cater


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