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Re: Gnome crashing but not sure where the problem lies.



On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 12:57 -0600, Marcin Pisz wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have multiple computers systems running dual boot windows and windows.
> One computers seems to have the problem, all running debian wheezy.  25%
> of the time when I start the system and login to gnome the first thing I
> notice the top internet connection icons says no connection.  Then the
> activities menu does not show up.  The only thing I am able to do
> crl-alt-F1 and then restart the machine or use crt-alt-del from the
> terminal to reboot the machine.  I tried downloading and new version of
> debian wheezy and re-installed it on the machine from clean install and
> the problem returned.  Not sure weather gnome-network is crashing,
> problem exists before and after installing nvidia driver.  Not sure if
> it is gnome package.  Problem is intermitten, but windows on the same
> machine is rock solid stable so I doubt it's a hardware problem.  Only
> difference with this machine is it runs of a SSD vs a hard drive.
> Though another laptop had this problem once as well.
> 
> Not sure what package to fill bug against.

I'm not using GNOME, but I'm using NetworkManager too.

There are some exceptional cases when NetworkManager could be helpful,
but usually it's just a PITA.

On different distros I have to reboot, even killing the panel applet and
trying to reconnect by command line doesn't work.

You should connect to the Internet without such an interface like
NetworManager or Wicd. If you want such a thingy try Wicd instead.

Filing a bug against NetworkManager is useless, since those issues are
well known.

I don't know what Debian does provide? IIRC I used PPPoEconf for Debian
and Ubuntu before I switched to NetworkManager, but perhaps I'm
confusing things?

On Arch I definitively used netcfg before I switched to NetworkManager.

If there isn't a reason for you to use NetworkManager, at all events
switch to something different.

Regards,
Ralf


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