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Re: samba VFS Quota or Quota tool



On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:26:53 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>
> > i am about to apply quota limits on samba share. and i am confuse as
> > what i can see so far is that i have two option to look into one is VFS
> > which is embedded module and support Quota but the problem is, all the
> > documents are very complex to understand i at least need an example for
> > multiple share folders. if some one who is previously using VFS and can
> > share his/her config file for example purpose only. i would be very
> > thankful.
>
> I can help you with the global concept but no with a sample configuration
> file, that's something you'll have to find out.
>
> To setup quotas in samba you basically need setup two things:
>
> - Enabling quotas for the mount point that holds the stored data (which
> usually means installing "quota" and "quota tool" packages).
>
> - Enabling samba quotas by configuring the corresponding samba VFS module.
>
> (there are many guides and information on how to setup these two things on
> the Internet...)

did you mean that in order to apply quota i have to implement it in
samba config file and on mount point also.
only applying quota on mount point will not work, is that what you mean?

can you please guide me to some proper step by step example?

>
> Remember that samba acts like a "glue" and knows little to nothing about
> users/groups/filesystems and relays on "mapping" (linux → windows) to
> mimic the Windows settings.
>
> > Secondly, Quota tool. is a partition base quota service not folder base.
> > and i only have 1 partition and want to assign multiple share to single
> > users-with-quota-limit which means multiple partitions. and that is what
> >  i currently don't have. but i know Linux always have workaround for
> > everything :) thats why i love Linux, so is there any thing i can do in
> > this matter?
>
> AFAIK, quotas can be applied to users/groups and to hard disk
> volumes. What you can do in your case is restricting your user's quota
> space and apply the restriction to the whole samba share volume. To get
> this working well, you will have to play with users/grous permissions and

yes thank God i am already aware of the permission with user and
groups :) so i am not worried about it at all

> put special care in having a perfect mapping between samba (windows)
> users/groups and your linux users/groups but still that can't be enough.
>
> Another thing you do is discarding the use of quotas in the samba share
> and monitor the available disk space in the linux volume, warning the
> admin when the disk capacity reaches a defined percentage of use.
>

no i can not do that. actually i am the admin and network engineer at
the same time i am a one man army doing everything :P anyways. our
users are very irresponsible i know they will dump their personal data
to their personal folder they think personal folder on fileserver
means storage for any thing ;) so better telling and teaching every
one quota is a best solution in my case



> To make samba useful, what I usually do is keeping things as simple as
> possible and create different directories for different purposes, for
> instance:
>
> - One (general) big pool directory where all users can read/write.
>
> - Per user (specific) directories available only to their owners (kinda
> private user dirs for their stuff).
>
> - Hidden (non browseable) and protected directories where only root can
> access to store, e.g., the bakcup files.
>
> But designing and defining a good policy for samba to fit your network
> requirements is not a simple task and requires high doses of trial and
> error tests, fighting with users and permissions before you can put it
> under production.

thanks for sharing you experience, but i was reading an article the
guy was suggesting to use a virtual file system image. so that how big
you create the file your quota will be limited to that image size no
matter whoever is accessing that share. but definitely this is a work
around.
any suggestion on that?


>
> > and being a newbie. i would like to ask one more thing that which of the
> > facility i should use, VFS or Quota tool, as i am not aware of the
> > market right now that which one is more popular and mostly people are
> > using. any suggestion in that should be appreciated.
>
> AFAICT, you need both.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
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