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Re: Re: free vs commercial; open vs proprietary is better dichotomy



On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:01:33AM +0800, Jianan wrote:
> "The details of a comparison between Debian/GNU/Linux and similarly
> produced software with Windows etc. is largely foolish."
> 
Would you mind attributing your quotes?
>
> I foot to that. This subject requires in-depth knowledge of the complicated 
> underlying details. This is a discourse which requires both extensive and 
> intensive knowledge. This is not a con game, where you can talk your way out 
> by being loud and confident. You must have the in-depth knowledge and the 
> experience.R&D, Product development, support services experience would be a 
> plus.
> 
What is not a con game?  Getting people to use your software?  I 
think Microsoft have done very well with this game.  Or do you mean 
a serious evaluation of the differences?  Yes, foolish, academic, 
impossible, who's going to listen?
> 
> "Now there is no doubt that it will survive."
> This is not a foregone conclusion yet. Its improving because 'free' has become 
> commercialised such as RH, SuSe, etc. and big businesses e.g. IBM, and 
> government, are getting involved. Leaving it completely to free hands, it will 
> die.
> 
Purely anecdotal evidence from Germany, where I happen to live, is 
that Debian is enjoying increasing acceptance, probably as a result 
of the popularity of Knoppix, Ubuntu & Co.  

Big businesses are a Bad Thing, okay.  I don't know if there's a 
conspiracy to kill off free software, but if not, they've seen 
where the public interest lies and they've accommodated to it.  If 
you want whole-grain muesli or phosphate-free detergent and Unilever 
provides it, take it.
>
> "It is sort of like English and French languages"
> Wrong analogy. Both languages develop with government as well as commercial 
> push. They are not worked out by individuals in their own free time.
> 
The French government pushes its language and civilisation because 
it's on the defensive.  Individuals in their own free time choose to 
learn English because it helps their career prospects in a world 
where trade is dominated by English-speaking countries whose 
inhabitants are too lazy, busy or simply unable to learn another 
language.  You so-called "commercial push" is simply market forces.

David

-- 
David Jardine

"Running Debian GNU/Linux and
loving every minute of it." -Sacher M.



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