Sam Watkins wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:22:30AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote:The difference is this: 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the teachings of Mohammed and Islam. 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to the Bible and the Word of God. -Roberto SanchezThis is complete ignorance and falsehood. I have been reading the Quran extensively of late, it is a beautiful and peaceful book. The morality of the Quran is far beyond what is practised by leaders of any country today. Obviously you speak without having read the Quran. The Quran does not promote terrorism or senseless violence, the Quran and true Islam is extremely tolerant of other religions. The passages in the Quran concerning war are all based on the premise that the Islamic nation is under attack. The Quran repeatedly says that if the enemy wants to make peace, then the Muslim must make peace.
There is a great book called "Islam and the Jews: The Unfinished Battle" http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0884199568/002-8071501-5144016?v=glance It is an easy read by a guy who was Muslim, and has a masters and doctorate in Islamic study. At the age of 34 he was saved and now he uses his personal experience to expose the truth of what Islam really is. I cannot quote directly from the book, as I borrowed it from a friend and have now returned, but the author provides a clear and well-founded argument. He also cites numerous Quranic verses that show just how contradictory it is.
See http://submission.org/, for example, for a readable translation of the Quran. The Quran is in fact far more consistent than the bible; I am able to believe that the Quran is the uncorrupted word of God, whereas the bible itself testifies that the scribes have corrupted it: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
The Muslims believe in a conecpt of "nullification" (I forget the correct term) that essentially states that later verses in the Quran that contradict with earlier verses, contradict or "trump" the earlier verses. Read the book I mention above and you will see what I mean. The Quran directly contradicts itself and parts of Hadith contradict what the Quran says. Not only that, but your scripture verse is taken out of context. Chatpers 7 and 8 of Jeremiah talk about the Israelites having lost their way and becoming seperated from God. The specific verse you quote talks about how the scribes will answer at the judgment for their claim of brigning forth the inspired Word of God. Clearly, since the passage refers to people that are lost from God, it cannot be talking about those to whom the Bible was actually revealed, since those to whom it was revealed necessarily would not have been lost from God. -Roberto Sanchez
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