Re: LTSP packages
On a side note, here is an apt source line for LTSP packages:
deb http://termserv.berlios.de/debian stable main non-free
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Tom Allison wrote:
> I noticed that the ltsp.org has a series of GPLed debian packages
> for use in installing the lstp client/server files necessary.
>
> I am wondering why these packages have not been incorporated into
> the Debian Package library as official packages?
>
> I asked on the ltsp list and the response was two fold:
>
> The lstp .deb maintaner was not yet on the Debian Team.
> --Why can't someone sponsor him and get it in?
>
> The ltsp .deb packages would have to be 'non-free' and Debian is
> discouraging non-free packages. I guess I don't get it. it's GPLed.
>
> In any event. Even if there are packages of this type that are made
> available to Debian and Debian refuses to acknowledge them directly
> or indirectly, Debian is the one who loses.
>
> Without doing any investigation, it appears that something like the
> ltsp.org project is supported by RedHat's RPMs and Suse. There's
> extra work involved in finding the Debian packages.
>
> This would implicate that Debian doesn't have the technical support
> base on this project (and others?) and may lead someone to walk away
> from using Debian.
>
> I personally think that Debian is one of the best run and most
> intelligent distributions I have seen over the last 6 years. But
> little holes like this turn into big problems when people are
> evaluating the distributions. I would have trouble convincing
> someone that Debian would be a good solution for a K-12 educational
> alternative when something that is this K-12 educational
> infrastructure friendly is not available.
>
> I would like to suggest that we either get something like this
> incorporated into the Packages or, more importantly, consider an
> alternative to the non-free problems that plague a number of
> software packages out there that are not in the Debian-proper structure.
>
> Would it be reasonable to develop a program wherein the Debian
> organization identifies project websites which do provide Debian
> packages, which, for some reason cannot yet be included into the
> Debain Package Tree at this time, however, present a status suitable
> to the Debian philosophy (including non-free?), some history of
> presence, and a Standard of Quality which is not derogatory to the
> overall Quality of the Debian distribution?
> These would not have to be listed in the Debian Packages, but merely
> have Debian.org provide a space on their website to reference the
> other projects (ltsp.org for example) that do provide Debian
> Packages which, for some reason or another, can not yet be fully
> incorporated (if ever?).
>
> I think it is valuable for Debian to provide as much accessability
> to the software that is coming available. I'm unclear as to the
> exact details of the standards which restrict the lstp.org packages
> from being incorporated into the Debian Package Tree, but the value
> of a project like this should not be overlooked.
>
> Thank you for letting me rant (a little). I am not trying to flame
> anyone, I'm just concerned that we may be missing an opportunity here.
>
>
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