FWIW, the debian lists just started showing up again on my news server from someplace in France. I rather LIKE using them in Unsenet format rather than mailing list format only because my mailbox gets enough clutter. George Bonser grep@oriole.sbay.org, grep@concentric.net -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to templin@bucknell.edu .