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Re: nach kernel update freezed das system



niels jende schrieb:
Sven Hartge schrieb:
niels jende <niels_jende@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Ich habe nun meinen Kernel von 2.6.8 auf 2.6.15 upgedatet, bzw den
2.6.15 neugebaut. Das schien ja auch soweit funktioniert zu haben.
Jetzt ist es allerdings so, dass das System teilweise schon beim
starten von KDE freezed (bei der Geräteinitialisierung) oder aber auch
mitten in der Verarbeitung.

Woran kann das liegen?

Was steht im Kernel-Log? dmesg? Wie sieht lspci -vv aus? Wie sieht deine
Kernel-Konfiguration aus?


Ohne Informationen kann dir keiner helfen.
Hallo!

Also so sieht das ganz bei mir aus. Was mich jetzt eben doch etwas gewundert hat, ist die Tatsache,dass alle ISDN Geschichten wieder da sind, obwohl ich die ja gar nicht benötige.
debian:/home/niels# dmesg
Linux version 2.6.8-2-686 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu May 19 17:53:30 JST 2005
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f800 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009f800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0800 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000000fff0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000fff0000 - 000000000ffffc00 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 000000000ffffc00 - 0000000010000000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0800 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
255MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 65520
 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
 Normal zone: 61424 pages, LIFO batch:14
 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
DMI not present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD                                     ) @ 0x000f7660
ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTD    RSDT   0x00000001  LTP 0x00000000) @ 0x0fffd6b9
ACPI: FADT (v001 HP     ASHAKI   0x00000001 PTL  0x00000001) @ 0x0ffffb65
ACPI: BOOT (v001 PTLTD  $SBFTBL$ 0x00000001  LTP 0x00000001) @ 0x0ffffbd9
ACPI: DSDT (v001     HP   ASHAKI 0x00000001 MSFT 0x0100000b) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x8008
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
Found and enabled local APIC!
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes)
Detected 547.626 MHz processor.
Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Memory: 251748k/262080k available (1551k kernel code, 9628k reserved, 690k data, 148k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay loop... 1085.44 BogoMIPS
Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: After vendor identify, caps:  0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: After all inits, caps:        0383fbff 00000000 00000000 00000040
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 03
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000
ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
..... CPU clock speed is 547.0530 MHz.
..... host bus clock speed is 99.0550 MHz.
checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (ungzip failed); looks like an initrd
Freeing initrd memory: 4528k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9c1, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger.
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 14 15)
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support...
PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00f76e0
PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf0000:0xb41b, dseg 0x400
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x8400-0x8403 has been reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x8404-0x8407 has been reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x8408-0x8409 has been reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x8410-0x841f has been reserved
pnp: 00:0a: ioport range 0x4d0-0x4d1 has been reserved
pnp: 00:0a: ioport range 0x8000-0x803f has been reserved
pnp: 00:0a: ioport range 0x8800-0x880f has been reserved
PnPBIOS: 17 nodes reported by PnP BIOS; 17 recorded by driver
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:07.2[D] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:11.0[A] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:12.0[A] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 10
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:13.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
Simple Boot Flag at 0x39 set to 0x1
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
devfs: 2004-01-31 Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
devfs: boot_options: 0x0
Initializing Cryptographic API
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 48 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 32768)
NET: Registered protocol family 8
NET: Registered protocol family 20
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
RAMDISK: cramfs filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 4528 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 148k freed
vesafb: probe of vesafb0 failed with error -6
NET: Registered protocol family 1
SCSI subsystem initialized
libata version 1.02 loaded.
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:07.1
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
   ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc90-0xfc97, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
   ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc98-0xfc9f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: HDS728080PLAT20, ATA DISK drive
Using anticipatory io scheduler
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: max request size: 1024KiB
hda: 160836480 sectors (82348 MB) w/1719KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 < p5 >
hdc: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-H552U, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem.
EXT3-fs: write access will be enabled during recovery.
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: hda1: orphan cleanup on readonly fs
ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 819580
ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 819511
ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 819596
ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 819442
ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 819397
ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 819378
EXT3-fs: hda1: 6 orphan inodes deleted
EXT3-fs: recovery complete.
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Adding 763048k swap on /dev/hda5.  Priority:-1 extents:1
EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal
hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
input: ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1
Capability LSM initialized
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output
Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html
0000:00:10.0: 3Com PCI 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at 0xfc00. Vers LK1.1.19
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:07.2[D] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB
uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: irq 9, io base 0000fce0
uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 2
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x3A11
usbcore: registered new driver usblp
drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
ISDN subsystem Rev: 1.1.2.3/1.1.2.3/1.1.2.2/1.1.2.3/1.1.2.2/1.1.2.2 loaded
HiSax: Linux Driver for passive ISDN cards
HiSax: Version 3.5 (module)
HiSax: Layer1 Revision 2.46.2.5
HiSax: Layer2 Revision 2.30.2.4
HiSax: TeiMgr Revision 2.20.2.3
HiSax: Layer3 Revision 2.22.2.3
HiSax: LinkLayer Revision 2.59.2.4
hisax_isac: ISAC-S/ISAC-SX ISDN driver v0.1.0
hisax_fcpcipnp: Fritz!Card PCI/PCIv2/PnP ISDN driver v0.0.1
HiSax: Card 1 Protocol EDSS1 Id=fcpcipnp0 (0)
HiSax: DSS1 Rev. 2.32.2.3
HiSax: 2 channels added
HiSax: MAX_WAITING_CALLS added
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:13.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
hisax_fcpcipnp: found adapter Fritz!Card PCI v2 at 0000:00:13.0
agpgart: Detected an Intel 440BX Chipset.
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 203M
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf4000000
cpci_hotplug: CompactPCI Hot Plug Core version: 0.2
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
pciehp: PCI Express Hot Plug Controller Driver version: 0.4
shpchp: shpc_init : shpc_cap_offset == 0
shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:12.0[A] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.36
       <Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter>
       aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs

Real Time Clock Driver v1.12
input: PC Speaker
parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 1 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP,DMA]
inserting floppy driver for 2.6.8-2-686
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
NET: Registered protocol family 17
NET: Registered protocol family 10
Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c0300140(lo)
IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports C1)
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PBTN]
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
isdn_net: call from 5713885536 -> 0 922127 ignored
isdn_tty: call from 5713885536 -> 922127 ignored
isdn_net: Incoming call without OAD, assuming '0'
isdn_net: call from 0 -> 0 923738 ignored
isdn_tty: Incoming call without OAD, assuming '0'
isdn_tty: call from 0 -> 923738 ignored
isdn_net: call from 5713885536 -> 0 922127 ignored
isdn_tty: call from 5713885536 -> 922127 ignored
isdn_net: call from 5713885536 -> 0 923738 ignored
isdn_tty: call from 5713885536 -> 923738 ignored
debian:/home/niels#


debian:/home/niels# lspci -vv
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR-
       Latency: 64
       Region 0: Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
       Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 1.0
Status: RQ=32 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64- HTrans- 64bit- FW- AGP3- Rate=x1,x2 Command: RQ=1 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA- AGP- GART64- 64bit- FW- Rate=<none>

0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
       Latency: 128
       Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
       Memory behind bridge: fe000000-fecfffff
       Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f2000000-f2ffffff
       BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA+ VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B+

0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
       Latency: 0

0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
       Latency: 64
       Region 4: I/O ports at fc90 [size=16]

0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
       Latency: 64
       Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 9
       Region 4: I/O ports at fce0 [size=32]

0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
       Interrupt: pin ? routed to IRQ 9

0000:00:10.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 24)
       Subsystem: 3Com Corporation 3C905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 64 (2500ns min, 2500ns max), Cache Line Size: 0x08 (32 bytes)
       Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
       Region 0: I/O ports at fc00 [size=128]
       Region 1: Memory at fedffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
       Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
               Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

0000:00:11.0 ffff: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS (rev ff) (prog-if ff)
       !!! Unknown header type 7f

0000:00:12.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D / AIC-7881U (rev 01)
       Subsystem: Adaptec AHA-2940UW SCSI Host Adapter
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 64 (2000ns min, 2000ns max), Cache Line Size: 0x08 (32 bytes)
       Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
       Region 0: I/O ports at f400 [disabled] [size=256]
       Region 1: Memory at fedfe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
       Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
               Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

0000:00:13.0 Network controller: AVM Audiovisuelles MKTG & Computer System GmbHFritz!PCI v2.0 ISDN (rev 02) Subsystem: AVM Audiovisuelles MKTG & Computer System GmbH Fritz!PCI v2.0 ISDN Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
       Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
       Region 0: Memory at fedff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32]
       Region 1: I/O ports at fca0 [size=32]
       Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2+,D3hot-,D3cold-)
               Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev03) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
       Subsystem: Matrox Graphics, Inc. Millennium G200 AGP
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 128 (4000ns min, 8000ns max), Cache Line Size: 0x08 (32 bytes)
       Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
       Region 0: Memory at f2000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M]
       Region 1: Memory at fecf8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
       Region 2: Memory at fe000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8M]
       Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
               Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
       Capabilities: [f0] AGP version 1.0
Status: RQ=32 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64- HTrans- 64bit- FW- AGP3- Rate=x1,x2 Command: RQ=32 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ AGP+ GART64- 64bit- FW- Rate=x2


Gruß
Niels

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