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does this pertain to debian-security? (was: Logging practices (and why does it suck in Debian?))



On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Tim Uckun wrote:

> Everything you say is 100% absolutely true. But it also has a price. For me 
> the price can be summed up like this.
> When there is a new version of postgres out I want to be able to type 
> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and have it installed. Right now I can't 
> do that because debian has frozen on a well known and tested configuration 
> which does not include postgres 7.1 In fact for all debian knows installing 
> postgres 7.1 may break other apps or cause library problems. In the end I 
> guess it's a tradeoff  but I can't help but wonder if there is some third 
> alternative. One that would let me keep the stable debian OS I have and 
> let's me install using apt the newest postgresql/php/apache that I have 
> come to rely on. Right now I have to manually compile the three most 
> important parts of my system which makes apt less useful.

Tim, I think you are looking in the wrong direction. The potential for a
solution of your problem, i.e. a customised Debian distribution, is
already present in the package pools system, which were implemented for
this very reason (among others). The "testing" distribution is a (working
and useful) proof of concept for this, and is automatically generated from
the package pool. Use that as a guideline and create a new script that
picks deb source packages from the pool, compiles them for the
architectures you want, with the correct dependencies, builds the binary
packages and gets together a whole new branch of Debian (which I am sure
many people would find useful).

That being said, why don't we (anybody interested in this discussion) move
this out of debian-security? I don't really think this is the place for
it.

Bye
Giacomo

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