Bug#602088: konqueror: kfmclient debug messages cause havoc in 3rd party calls
Package: konqueror
Version: 4:4.4.5-1
Severity: important
SUMMARY
Linux is known of programs working in standard manner:
- Normal message to stdoout
- Error messages to stdout
The debug messages are not displayed, unless specifically enabled via:
- Command line options (-d, --debug or similar)
- Environment variables (PROGRAM_DEBUG=1, or similar)
- UI (Menu -> Debug, or similar)
By always sending output to the screen causes multiple problems:
- Programm differes from the rest of the 99.99% utilities in Linux.
- It gaves wrong impression: does this program have problems?
- It's makes it harder to tell good messages from bad
- It causes havoc on 3rd party programs (see below)
- It requires doing "extra hoops"
* In scripts
* In command line
Please suppress debug messages by default, enable only when requested.
DESCRIPTION
For some reason kfmclient sends debug messages in normal use. An
example
konqueror &
kfmclient newTab /usr/local
kfmclient(17331) ClientApp::doIt: Creating ClientApp
Qt: Session management error: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported
kfmclient(17331) ClientApp::createNewWindow: KUrl("file:///usr/local") mimetype= ""
This may not look a problem, but it causes wrecking the UI in 3rd
party applications. Am example:
1. Configure Emacs, Gnus and connect to group gmane.linux.debian.devel.*
2. Configure Emacs to browse URLs in konqueror
3. In Gnus news reader interface reading artile, click on URL at
*Article* buffer
=> The article content (or any buffer in that matter) is wrecked by
inserting the response from the kfmclient
This is how the output was inserted into an artile. See lined marked
with "*" to the left. The problem is even worse in *Summary* buffer
where the whole threading of messages goes beserk due to these
messages.
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From: Pietro Battiston <me@pietrobattiston.it>
Subject: Re: Uploading during freeze time
Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.mentors
To: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <jordigh@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
Date: 2 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours -- 2010-10-12 19:15 EEST
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Il giorno mar, 12/10/2010 alle 08.55 -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso ha
scritto:
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> On 11 October 2010 19:02, Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote:
> > Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <jordigh@gmail.com> writes:
> >
>
> >> The *real* problem is that labelling Firefox 3.6 as "experimental" is
> >> downright silly.
> >
> > Hm, okay. I guess I'm not feeling particularly inspired to do any work
> > based on that reaction.
>
> Sorry if I'm frustrated, but there's a real issue that you seem to
> insist as dismissing as a non-issue. Perhaps you're happy mixing three
> different distribution lines in your sources.list, but I'm not.
Jordi, I can't speak for Russ, but not only I do understand you: I can
grant you lot of people, including some DDs, do.*
But before this conversation goes on forever - which is tipically what
happens when people think they are debating on methods and techniques
while instead they diverge on motivations - does the following satisfy
you:
* kfmclient(17124) ClientApp::doIt: Creating ClientApp
* kfmclient(17124) ClientApp::createNewWindow: KUrl("http://lwn.net/Articles/406301/";) mimetype= ""
http://lwn.net/Articles/406301/
http://cut.debian.net/
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-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_DK.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_DK.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Versions of packages konqueror depends on:
ii install-info 4.13a.dfsg.1-6 Manage installed documentation in
ii kdebase-bin 4:4.4.5-1 core binaries for the KDE base app
ii kdebase-data 4:4.4.5-1 shared data files for the KDE base
ii kdebase-runtime 4:4.4.5-1 runtime components from the offici
ii libc6 2.11.2-6 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii libkde3support4 4:4.4.5-1 the KDE 3 Support Library for the
ii libkdecore5 4:4.4.5-1 the KDE Platform Core Library
ii libkdesu5 4:4.4.5-1 the Console-mode Authentication Li
ii libkdeui5 4:4.4.5-1 the KDE Platform User Interface Li
ii libkhtml5 4:4.4.5-1 the KHTML Web Content Rendering En
ii libkio5 4:4.4.5-1 the Network-enabled File Managemen
ii libkonq5 4:4.4.5-1 core libraries for Konqueror
ii libkonqsidebarplugin4a 4:4.4.5-1 konqueror sidebar plugin library
ii libkparts4 4:4.4.5-1 the Framework for the KDE Platform
ii libkutils4 4:4.4.5-1 various utility classes for the KD
ii libqt4-dbus 4:4.6.3-4 Qt 4 D-Bus module
ii libqt4-qt3support 4:4.6.3-4 Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt
ii libqt4-xml 4:4.6.3-4 Qt 4 XML module
ii libqtcore4 4:4.6.3-4 Qt 4 core module
ii libqtgui4 4:4.6.3-4 Qt 4 GUI module
ii libstdc++6 4.4.5-4 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii libx11-6 2:1.3.3-3 X11 client-side library
Versions of packages konqueror recommends:
ii dolphin 4:4.4.5-1 file manager
ii konqueror-nsplugins 4:4.4.5-1 Netscape plugin support for Konque
Versions of packages konqueror suggests:
pn konq-plugins <none> (no description available)
-- no debconf information
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