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Bug#600322: marked as done (kde-full: There does not seem to be a way of getting kde to rum instead of gnome)

Your message dated Sat, 16 Oct 2010 04:22:58 +0300
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and subject line Re: Bug#600322: kde-full: There does not seem to be a way of getting kde to rum instead of gnome
has caused the Debian Bug report #600322,
regarding kde-full: There does not seem to be a way of getting kde to rum instead of gnome
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Package: kde-full
Version: 5:64
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable

The title says it all. the kde-base install does not make any attempt to undo
the gnome spaghetti so that kdm can run. The Debian soft links and other
indirections for the start up of gnome are so baroque that it is almost
impossible to unpick. The classical method for the selection of a display
manager is the use of a soft link in the /etc/X11/xinit. I think that the
Debian implementers have lost the plot here.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages kde-full depends on:
ii  kde-plasma-desktop            5:64       the KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal
ii  kde-plasma-netbook            5:64       the KDE Plasma Netbook and minimal
ii  kdeadmin                      4:4.4.5-4  system administration tools from t
ii  kdeartwork                    4:4.4.5-1  themes, styles and other artwork f
ii  kdeedu                        4:4.4.5-2  educational applications from the 
ii  kdegames                      4:4.4.5-1  games from the official KDE releas
ii  kdegraphics                   4:4.4.5-2  graphics applications from the off
ii  kdemultimedia                 4:4.4.5-1  multimedia applications from the o
ii  kdenetwork                    4:4.4.5-1  networking applications from the o
ii  kdepim                        4:4.4.6-1  Personal Information Management ap
ii  kdeplasma-addons              4:4.4.5-1  addons for Plasma
ii  kdeutils                      4:4.4.5-1  general-purpose utilities from the

Versions of packages kde-full recommends:
ii  kde-standard                  5:64       the KDE Plasma Desktop and standar
ii  kdeaccessibility              4:4.4.5-1  accessibility packages from the of
ii  kdesdk                        4:4.4.5-1  Software Development Kit from the 
ii  kdetoys                       4:4.4.5-1  desktop toys from the official KDE
ii  kdewebdev                     4:4.4.5-1  web development apps from the offi

Versions of packages kde-full suggests:
pn  kde-l10n                      <none>     (no description available)
pn  koffice                       <none>     (no description available)
ii  xorg                          1:7.5+7    X.Org X Window System

-- no debconf information

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Hello,

On šeštadienis 16 Spalis 2010 03:32:03 John Hunter wrote:
> Package: kde-full
> Version: 5:64
> Severity: grave
> Justification: renders package unusable
> 
> The title says it all.

On the contrary, the title does not say much.

> the kde-base install does not make any attempt to
> undo the gnome spaghetti so that kdm can run.

Debian policy does not permit packages to mess with configuration of other 
packages.

> The Debian soft links and
> other indirections for the start up of gnome are so baroque that it is
> almost impossible to unpick. The classical method for the selection of a
> display manager is the use of a soft link in the /etc/X11/xinit. 

I don't know where you are picking those classics from but in Debian you will 
get a debconf question which display manager to start (gdm or kdm). You can 
get the same debconf question by running [1] or [2]. What is more, you can 
start KDE from gdm just fine as well. So I can only suggest fixing your system 
configuration first.

> I think
> that the Debian implementers have lost the plot here.

If you want to use "classic" (?) /etc/X11/xinit, feel free to find a way 
yourself but do not open bugs about it (or esp. release-critital ones). 
Closing.

[1] # dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[2] # dpkg-reconfigure kdm

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