Hi all, Back in October, during the firefox/iceweasel dispute, Branden Robinson and I expressed a little exasperation on IRC that Debian wasn't really setting a great example itself in how it licenses its logos. We had a bit of a chat about that and that resulted in a rough agreement on what to do, which Branden wrote up on the Debian wiki at: http://wiki.debian.org/ProposedTrademarkPolicy Since then, that hasn't seen much real feedback, so I've been reluctant to push it any further -- it's hard to tell whether a lack of feedback means "we don't care, that sounds fine", "this is too complicated, whatever you do is wrong", or just "we haven't heard about this or looked at it". Fortunately, I had the opportunity to do a bit of a straw poll at the Debian miniconf at LCA of what people thought about freeing up the Debian trademark policy, and it seems that people there were pretty much for the idea. As such at the end of this week, I'm planning on asking the SPI board to relicense the Debian logos as follows: * both logos shall be released under the MIT copyright license: Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE. * the "open use" logo will not be enforced as a trademark; anyone may use it or create similar logos in whatever way they like, though we will continue using it to refer to and promote Debian. * the "official use" logo will be enforced as an unregistered trademark; and we will only authorise use of the logo or similar logos where the product or service being referred to is officially related to Debian (such as an official CD image, a t-shirt promoting debian.org, a Debian developer's business card) I think that's a good way of ensuring both our logos meet the DFSG, and also provides both a good experiment in a completely free trademark license that fairly accurately reflects our current treatment of the open use logo as well as a reasonable example for groups who want to have some protection for their brand but still be a good citizen of the free software community. Anyway, if anyone has some fairly convincing reasons why the above is a bad idea, please do speak up now. If you think it's a good idea, and want to refute the "no feedback" issue mentioned above, feel free to comment too. :) Cheers, aj
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