Re: More polls and social pressure
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote:
> > It's just an idea that I wanted to share because I believe that we need to do
> > something to reduce the level of flames on our lists. I'm always open to
> > better ideas.
> I just wanted to express that such a system, no matter how it is
> implemented, if it ends in listmasters banning people, is not a good
I never said it should end up in banning people. There are many possible
actions that don't go so far :
- delaying the mails
- manually moderating some posters
- rate-limiting (eg. X mails per day and then block)
The ban is the last course of action, only if all the rest didn't work out.
> Flames should be ignored. Every one, once in a while, has been a troll
> or a flamer. They should be ignored in that moment, but not banned,
> kicked, expelled or $whatever.
FWIW, I totally agree with Steve's answer on this subject. I do ignore
(most of the) flames, but the lists didn't improve because of that. So IMO
we need to find out something else.
> > > As if we don't have enough flamewars, now they will be accompanied with
> > > polls. And each side will have his poll. Great...
> > One poll per issue seems enough. Why should we have a poll for "each side"?
> Because each side will like their poll, their way. And there will be a
> flamewar about *the poll*. This is Debian.
I think that it's better to have one flamewar while preparing the vote and
have a vote which represent most of the opinions and then be done with it,
than having flamewars that comes again and again because no decision was
reached at the end of the previous flamewar.
(And I'd like to know if a majority of developer would agree with that
assertion, so a poll on that subject would be welcome :-)).
Yes, there's no guaranty that a formal vote would close a given subject,
but I suspect it will and if it doesn't, it will still be time to see how
to handle the problem at hand. IMO, there's no need to see that far right
now when we didn't try the first step yet.
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