You can also use wmapm, as long as you have apm compatibility in pmud (an option, I don't remember where...) There's a command-line option for wmapm to tell it which fifo to use, and you can tell it to use /etc/power/apm. Cheers, Patrix. -- "No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow." -- Lt. Cmdr. Susan Ivanova, Babylon 5. "It's the Magic that counts." -- Larry Wall on Perl's apparent ugliness.