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Re: debian directory included in upstream



On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 02:33:49PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Margarita Manterola <margamanterola@gmail.com> [2005.04.13.1359 +0200]:
> > ??? Users of __stable__ won't ever get that piece of software, no
> > matter if it goes into unstable, testing, or any other distribution
> > you might make up.
> 
> Users of stable can just as well add unstable deb-src links to
> sources.list. That's probably even better than pulling the software
> from xyz and compiling it in /tmp. Use `apt-get -b source`!
> 
> > Please, do acknowledge that having a debian directory in upstream
> > does make sense for a lot of different motives. 

I acknowledge that having a debian directory in upstream does make
sense. One motive is giving users easy to a -dbg package.


   apt-get source conglomerate
   cd conglomerate-x.y.z
   fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us
   # was not necessery, only for a clean build check
   debian/rules conglomerate-dbg
   su -c "dpkg -i ../conglomerate-dbg_x.y.z-n_arch.deb"




<screenshot>
stappers@bahrain:/usr/src
$ zcat conglomerate_0.9.0-1.diff.gz
--- conglomerate-0.9.0.orig/debian/changelog
+++ conglomerate-0.9.0/debian/changelog
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
-conglomerate (0.7.16-2) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
+conglomerate (0.9.0-1) unstable; urgency=low

-  * expecting new upstream version
+  * new upstream version

- -- Geert Stappers <stappers@debian.org>  Sat,  1 Jan 2005 15:58:34
  +0100
+ -- Geert Stappers <stappers@debian.org>  Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:36:18
+0100

 conglomerate (0.7.16-1) unstable; urgency=low

stappers@bahrain:/usr/src
$
</screenshot>



> > Maybe it does not
> > make sense to distribute it with a release, but putting it in
> > a branch, as you said, is too much extra work for upstream. 
> 
> sounds like the wrong version control system to me. :)

<sarcasme>
Yeah, the version control system as an argument
to ban the debian directory from upstream.
</sarcasme>

> 
> > If he wants to have a debian directory, it's his right as upstream
> > to have it.  Although it is a good idea to discourage distributing
> > it.
> 
> Sure it's his right. I still do not see a reason why it would be
> needed upstream.

Indeed, a debian directory is _not needed_ upstream.
Some how I feel you are fighting against a debian directory in upstream.
If you weren't visible at good places, I would have to asked
to let upstream decide what goes in the released tarball
and to do something else as saying "others should not ...."


Cheers
Geert Stappers

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