On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 09:52:36PM -0500, selussos wrote: > > Next, United States copyright law has the United States as its scope > > and I'm not sure that anywhere else recognises exactly the same words. > > If you want to look at the international agreements, the main one is > > the Berne Convention. You can find the text at > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html amongst > > others. Your copyright adviser should be able to tell you more about > > this. > > > > Nothing that I know makes a notice mean the same as a condition of a > > permission grant. Can you see why a condition of the permission grant > > (such as your condition clause 4) is different to a notice in the > > licence (such as the X.org phrase that you mentioned)? If you wish to > > achieve the same effect as the X.org licence, will you change > > condition clause 4 into a notice at the end, like the X.org licence, > > please? > > > > I will be away for several days because of business requirements > and such will not be able to familiarize myself with your concerns until > I return. > > I can only state that if the 4th clause is indeed your concern > there is a lot more software than ours that you should be worried > about, and so I must ask, why aren't you? That is a very serious accusation. Please give specific examples of all other things in the Debian archive that you are aware of with a similar clause; we will investigate them all, and if they do indeed share the same problems, either get the upstream authors to clarify/change the license or remove the offending material from the archive. *To the best of my knowledge*, no such cases exist. The X.org, MIT, and various BSD licenses have similar clauses, but do not have the same issues - they are merely nebulous "may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software" statements, which is self-evident even if it weren't present in the license. But it's not unknown for variations like this to get missed; they're often subtle. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- |
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