On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 08:01:42PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org> writes: > > > On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 12:26:55PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > >> Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org> writes: > >> > >> > We consider the former to be DFSG-free and the latter to be non-free > >> > (and require explicit permission to do the latter from the copyright > >> > holder). That's all there is to it. I can't imagine why Mozilla would > >> > want to forbid this, other than a total lack of comprehension of the > >> > difference between trademarks and copyrights. > >> > >> I can -- they're currently very concerned about unstable or poorly > >> modified code being shipped as "Firefox" or "Mozilla" branded > >> software. > >> > >> Debian *will* modify the Mozilla or Firefox products slightly to ship > >> them -- introducing better FHS compliance, for example, and probably > >> a few other things: Different bookmarks, different home page, maybe > >> different text in some places and maybe different code. These may > >> impact the stability or user experience of the product, so they're > >> concerned about us using their protected marks. > >> > >> As a consequence of the above, even if we did have a copyright license > >> to modify the icon or the bitmap of the text "Firefox", we wouldn't > >> have a trademark license to use the word 'Firefox' to describe our > >> modified product. > > > > Did you even read what I wrote? Why does it help to prohibit me from > > taking the firefox logo, replacing the fox part with a cow, and using > > it as the logo for something else entirely? How could this possibly be > > relevant? > > I did, but this last reply makes no sense to me. I mean, you're right > logo, there is no reason to prevent doing that. But I don't > understand why you're saying that. My entire mail was about the difference between trademarks and copyrights, and how copyrights prohibited this case (and must not, for it to be DFSG-free), while trademarks do not. I discussed no other points. For the trademark issue itself, we dealt with that several days ago. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- |
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