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Re: Re: Bug#227159: ocaml: Worse, the QPL is not DFSG-free



On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 05:10:05PM +0200, luther@debian.org wrote:
> >> Yes, but it is by no means reason enough to declare the QPL non-free.
> >
> >I didn't claim that it was, so this statement isn't relevant.
> 
> Ok, so everything is fine, and there is no reason to change the licence, nor
> to remove ocaml from the sarge release at the last minute.

What I said was "I didn't claim that this is the reason that the QPL is
non-free"; I think that was clear.

> Yep, and i believe that the Apple licence, the NPL and many other such ones
> have similar properties. Why are we not picking on them ? 

If I remember correctly, both the APSL and the NPL are non-DFSG-free, and
I'm not aware of any software in main under these licenses (that isn't dual-
licensed under some other, free license).  If you know of one, feel free to
point it out (in a new thread), but it isn't relevant here.

> >so.  That's perfectly fine, and means that they should be approached
> >differently.  It doesn't make the GPL suggestion any less valid in the
> >general case, however.
> 
> Well, it may be valid, but you should at least consider the history of the
> case before making quick judgement, especially if you claim to know more than
> the maintainer of the package about it.

The correct course of action is for d-legal to make a reasonable suggestion,
and the maintainer to figure out if it's reasonable in that particular case.

> And if i feel a bit excited about this, is because the only reason i know
> about this discussion is the sudden bug report from Brian which was less than
> tactfull. I wonder if he had not filled it, i would have been expected to
> remove the package (and all its dependencies) from debian/main a few days
> before the sarge release.

I've looked through the bug log, and not seen any messages from Brian which
were less than polite.  Your responses are almost categorically rude and
abrasive, eg. "shut Brian up", "Oh, go bother someone else", "Whatever.".
Sorry, but you aren't a person who can seriously complain about the tact
of others.  :)

> Well, i have done so, but nobody seem to have read that email, so what do you
> expect of me ?

It's certainly not strange for one message out of a large thread to go
unnoticed.  Repost it, break threads and change the topic to make it visible,
if necessary.  I don't even know which message you're referring to.  (Your
constantly hostile tone does make me skip most of your posts, though.)

-- 
Glenn Maynard



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