Re: HTTPS TROUBLE
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 08:40:49AM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> On Thursday 05 September 2002 08:02 am, c tripp wrote:
> > thanks everybody for the quick response. i am in fact using konqueror.
> > new to linux as i am, i'm curious about the fact that everyone seems to be
> > pro-"mozilla". is it better than konqueror in some way...? perhaps i
> > should migrate.
> >
> > in the meantime, does anyone know the appropriate apt-get info for the
> > file(s) i need to enable konqueror?
You need the kde crypto support.
> I use both konq and Mozillla, in addition to lynx and links console text
> browsers. I even have opera. I also have netscape. Sometimes it is handy
> to have different browsers for different web sites.
I have found that Konqueror's javascript support is incomplete, its java
works fine (as long as you have it installed) and people can't figure
out where to tweak cookies even with a very cute cupcake icon in
preferences.
At an internet lounge I just ran, tweaking cookies on, off, or flushed
was a very highly desired feature and all of the major browsers will be
hearing abug report filing about it. I often tweak the cookies state
but just didn't think how much digging through menus it is until this.
> I visited one site that insisted I either use IE or Netscape, it simply
> wouldn't work with konq and opera. I keep my browsers honest, so they
> identify as themselves.
Opera worked fine from a js perspective but it's so full of whizbang
that people felt lost. SO lost in fact, that I hardly think they
noticed the ads.
> Mozilla is in my opinion the fullest featured and most able browser available
> for Linux today. Konq is in my opinion the fastest (if you are already
> running kde). I also use Galeon, but that is more like a spiffy front end to
> Mozilla, and still isn't as fast on this machine running Woody.
Galeon really is mozilla, different skin. Find me a way to use less
than all of Mozilla on low-quality systems (only 32 or 40 MB of true
RAM) and I'll be paying closer attention.
> Opera rarely gets used these days. I'll probably remove it since all the
> others do what it could/should.
>
> You will need to locate pluggins for them. This is a pain imo. Konq is
> supposed to use netscape (therefore Mozilla) pluggins, but half the time when
> I visit a flash enabled site, konq opens ten pages pointing to flash
> downloads!
Actually, half the time I visit a flash enabled site, it goes crazy with
the stupid pop-ups and pop-unders, so that may just be a speed issue...
I love the current Mozilla's ability to deny extra window launches, but
I wish I could allow it on a persite basis the way cookies and
js-overall are.
IE's "security zones" is not really good enough.
> Java is another one you will probably want. I used the recommend jre2 from
> blackdown. The non-free package has been Debianized, so you can simply add
> that line to your /etc/apt/sources.list and install it pain free. The one
> problem with this Java is it is S L O W, but fully functional.
> Good luck on getting them all set up.
Is there a debian package for the zen browser? I don't think it speaks
to X yet, but at least it is gui. (while we're pulling all of 'em out
of a hat)
* Heather Stern * star@ many places...
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