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State of Konqueror - Was: Konqueror: webkit instead of khtml



Hi,

first, let me state that Konqueror has been my standard browser for many, many years now. It has been my standard browser although:

	1. Javascript *never* worked decently IMO
	2. Flash *never* worked decently IMO
	3. Java *never* worked decently IMO

It has been my standard browser because it still worked for approximately 90% of the web pages I visit on a regular basis while it's much better integrated in KDE than the alternatives. For the pages that would not render in Konqueror I could still use Iceweasel.

The situation has dramatically changed in KDE 4. With KDE 4, 90 % of the web pages I visit on a regular basis could *not* be rendered decently in Konqueror. I could not even log in on bugs.kde.org with Konqueror from one machine until 4.2.2 ...

Yes, KDE 4.2.2 ships a much improved Konqueror. But still, there are so many sites that Konqueror won't display properly, including my *own* sites. (Have you ever tried managing a Drupal site with Konqueror??)

So the question is not about Webkit or KHTML. I couldn't care less about the rendering engine in use. The question is how usable Konqueror is at the moment. For me the answer is sad but clear:

	*Konqueror in it's current state is almost useless.* (For me!)

After using the "Open with Iceweasel" button way to often recently I'm finally using Iceweasel as the default now. A decision I did not make easily.

The sadest part is that it reminds me of a similar switch I made about a year ago: I switched from KMail to Icedove because of the "most hated bug" in KDE, the well known UI freeze in KMail. Do I go back? Don't think so. Why should I struggle setting it all up again in KMail 4.x.x.

So the strange situation is this now: I'm facing a beautiful KDE 4.2.2 desktop while my most prominent standard applications have GTK interfaces: Iceweasel, Icedove, Emacs, Inkscape, Gimp, Eclipse.

Do I use a single KDE app regularly right now? Well, yes, Dolphin (very, very buggy), Amarok 2 (very,very buggy), Konsole and that's it.

(BTW, while preparing this mail Konqueror crashed on 3 different sites, one of them bugs.kde.org!)

Kind regards,

Felix

Christoph Burgmer wrote:
Am Montag, 27. April 2009 schrieb David Baron:
 > Maybe now is the time to change it. Konqueror is nigh useless right now,
 > slow, system-bogdown, wierd scrolling problems, you name it.


I don't want to add any more oil to the useless fire. But KDE 4.2.2 was a huge improvement over the preceding versions wrt KHTML.


Christoph


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