I tried the rc2 debs at people.debian.org with my sid system and was very impressed. minor problems. -- the konqueror sidebar is broken. (hit f9 and try running any of the options) -- artsd always starts. (i haven't found a way to stop it without killing even though i don't have the run soundsystem thing checked). I haven't risked my kmail with it yet. could you include an addendum on the wiki page to say RC fixes have been included when they are. cheers, caoilte