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Re: "No Text!" in kde menu bar and duplicated items



On Thursday 14 October 2004 19:26, Michael Peddemors wrote:
> On October 14, 2004 02:44 am, Achim Bohnet wrote:
> > On Thursday 14 October 2004 10:22, Massimiliano Mirabello wrote:
> > Let's find the really problem, before we declare it solved ;)
> >
> > > A message sent in debian-kde list (subject was:"Missing Text Items...
> > > Tracked Down.) helped me.
> > > Problem is caused by a missing config file in all users home (this is not
> > > created with user and some programs don't look for deafault shared
> > > ui_standards.rc)
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Massimiliano
> >
> > On Sunday 10 October 2004 00:55, Michael Peddemors wrote:
> > > Just an FYI for anyone upgrading from 3.1.4 to 3.2.xx series, the gotcha
> > > in the woody debs, is that the new packages in some cases (kedit,kpdf
> > > etc) only
> 
> > What version of do you use?
> 
> >  dpkg -l *kdelibs\* kpdf kedit | grep ^[^up]
> 
> ii  kdelibs        3.2.2-0.credat KDE core libraries metapackage
> ii  kdelibs-bin    3.2.2-0.credat KDE core binaries
> ii  kdelibs-data   3.2.2-0.credat KDE core shared data
> ii  kdelibs4       3.2.2-0.credat KDE core libraries
> ii  kpdf           3.2.2-0.credat PDF viewer for KDE
> ii  kedit          3.2.2-0.credat KDE text editor

Nice. I switched to testing before I could they they woody debs.

> > What your output of:
> >
> > $ strace kpdf 2>&1 | grep ui_standards
> 
> It was via strace that I found that it didn't hit 
> the /etc/kde3/ui/ui_standards.rc file..

Yeah, but I wanted to check what dirs your 'non-working' kpdf
is trying to check compared to an working app ;)

> 
> > > Possibly new users will get this file created, I did not check yet.
> >
> > No.
> 
> Ouch.. Then the packages need fixing..

The point is that ui_standard is a very important zentral file.
KDE simply expects to find at least one in the search path.  No
plan B to fix the 'broken' environment.
> 
> > > Without that file in the users home directories, the app specific text
> > > items will only show.  This also causes duplicate items somehow, but was
> > > resolved also by adding this file.
> >
> > that's a workaround that hides the real problem ;)
> 
> I know.. That's why I mentioned it shoudl go to the dvelopers lists.
> 
> > > Really, the programs should be looking for the presence of a default
> > > standards file, if the users one is missing.
> >
> > Right.  This normally is the standard kde behaviour.

Okay,  what's the output of

 echo $KDEHOME
 echo $KDEDIR
 echo $KDEDIRS
 kde-config --path config
 ls -l /etc/kderc /usr/share/config
 strace kpdf 2>&1 | grep ui_standards

Achim
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