Re: How install KDE with Woody/testing? (2)
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On Monday 06 August 2001 20:34, tluxt wrote:
<going to do massive snippage, won't not every instance>
> I tried something like this - I did the dist-upgrade, but didnt use -fuy.
> I then ran dselect and let it install sone packages it wanted to.
> I then ran tasksel, selecting to install:
> 1. X
> 2. GUI - (a combination of GNOME & KDE)
At this stage, just install X, you can install kde "manually" later, not in
dselect.
>
> but, something(s) must not have worked properly, because :
> 1. I never got the GUI based X config screen (to config mouse,
> vid card, monitor, refresh rates). I did get some text mode questions
> about these items. I answered them, and it accepted the answers.
normall. Debian (i don't think) has a gui X configurator. Maybe progeny
does.
> 2. Neither startx nor start-kde work - they both complain about being
> unable to open an X display, I think.
The last few lines of this output would have been great :-)
> 3. When I reboot, the login comes up in text mode, not GUI mode. One of
> the last lines from the boot messages is about starting some Gnome
> thing, but no mention is make of KDE in those messages.
Probably gdm. You say at the end this is taken care of, so I won't worry
about it.
> Questions:
> 1. Is there a program run by the package installer that will come up to
> help me configure X? If yes: Do you know the program's name?
> If no, what program should I run to configure X?
dpkg-reconfigure -p=low xserver-xfree86
> (I suspect the answer above is yes, so then:) Is that configure program
> a GUI based config program? What is it's name? XF86Setup?
> I searched for XF86Setup - it isn't on my system. But, xf86config is.
> I used xf86config to generate a config file.
You can also run xf86config, but it is also not gui based.
> Is that the best way being used to configure X? Should that be run
> automatically at some point by the package installer, or am
> I supposed to run it on my own?
It should have run automatically, in fact, it sounds like it did (when you
answered those few questions in text mode). My best guess is that your
debconf "ask me no questions below this priority level" level is set too
high, and it skipped something that it needed to ask directly. Oh, well.
> 2. At some point after doing the apt-get dist-upgrade I got a question
> about which interface type to use for package configuration:
> slang, dialog, text, (& 2 others, I think). I tried slang one time,
> but got errors about slang & perl during package installation, IIRC.
>
> Which interface type should be chosen at this question? (I think
> slang is definitely out, but I want to ensure that the best X config
> program runs, and I suspect that that is the GUI based config program,
> not just some text questions. The GUI based config program at least
> allows immediate verification that the mouse is working, and that a
> GUI screen is capable of operating with the video hw.)
None of those are gui, iirc. The slang was complaining about missing
libterm-stool-something. I would go with dialog. it works fine, and is a
bit more than just a command line in black and white.
> 3. I have NOT, at any time, put the KDE deb line into sources.list.
> Is that the correct way to do this procedure?
yes.
> *1 Woody, at this time, presumably in practicality means testing,
> since "woody" doesn't really exist yet (there are just
> packages in "testing", "woody" won't exist until those packages, and
> other stuff are released, some months from now))
Woody == testing. one and the same :-)
> > If you're on a
> > 56k line (like I am), be prepared for a long wait; it took about 20
> > hours of downloading for me to get a fairly complete setup with
> > KDE2.1.1 (the latest at the time) and the Debian GNOME packages.
>
> 4. Is there some way to avoid having to DL the Gnome packages? (If they
> aren't necessary, I'd prefer to not dl them over a 56K modem.) I
> didn't see a "KDE only" tasksel option. (Should I use dselect,
> not tasksel?) Is there some way to get "KDE only" to appear
> as a tasksel option?
Yes. One install just select X, not "gui". Then when you're done, run
'apt-get install task-kde'. That will drag down all kde stuff, no gnome. On
my box at work, I have no gnome code at all. And gtk only for the gimp :-)
> 5. How do I ensure I am using debconf, not debconf-tiny?
> Where can I find out more about debconf? I searched for it under
> documentation on the Debian website, but there was no info there.
> Did I miss something? Do I have to read the source? Or, basically -
> in a sentence or two, what should I know about debconf?
apt-get install debconf. If it's already install, it comes back saying so.
Otherwise, it uninstalles debconf-tiny, and updates to debconf.
> One problem I seem to be having is getting xf86config to use a SVGA
> ability, not just a 640x480 vga size. Any thoughts? (SuperProbe did find
> out a model name for my card (SiS 630 AGP (PCI Probed)), but that wasn't on
> the list provided for xf86config, so xf86config just defaults to a "vga"
> driver.
According to xfree86.org, drivers for the 630 are new to 4.1.0 (which I doubt
you are running), so peversely, you probably need to downgrade to 3.3.6 in
order to get your video card out of vesa mode. Will someone who has
installed 3.3.6 in woody step forward? That's out of my range...
HTH,
D.A.Bishop
ps. sorry for the bad typing, my daughter is screaming and she's in my lap
kicking the keyboard. argh.....
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