Re: Spam on the lists [Was: Re: Account Upgrade (Unex)]
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 08:24, Siggy Brentrup<debian@psycho.i21k.de> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 08:48 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 01:39, brian m.
>> carlson<sandals@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:24:28AM +0300, Eugene Gorodinsky wrote:
>> >> Is there any way to actually make it harder to spam the list? I just
>> >> subscribed and already see spam and phishing attacks...
>> >
>> > Yes. There are infinitely many ways to make it harder to spam the list,
>> > among them:
>> >
>> > * Allowing posting only by subscribers.
>> > * Requiring a signed agreement and a surety bond before allowing posting
>> > to the list.
>> > * Only allowing people to post to the list if they have an armed guard
>> > standing beside them who shoots spammers on sight.
>> > * Not allowing posting to the list.
>>
>> I here we miss the important one (the only method we have available):
>>
>> * report a message as spam, so that we can let us filters learn from
>> it and subsequently remove the spam message from the archive.
>>
>> on the web interface of a mailing list, available at
>> http://lists.debian.org/<list>/ , you can search for the message and
>> "report as spam" it, clicking on the button on upper right.
>>
>> This can be done by *anyone*, DDs and non, and all are encouraged to
>> do so. It's fundamental to have reports: without them we have a false
>> sense of spam-free mailing lists, when we all know it's not true.
>
> And if for whatever reason somebody wants to see your list disfunctional,
> you open an easy way to do so by implementing a bot that reports every
> message as spam. Do you volunteer to fix such a situation?
every report has to be *reviewed* by humans (DDs in this case), so
other than a very high number of message to review it would do no
harm.
>> In addition, DDs can *review* all the spam reports (to filter out
>> false-positive from real spam messages) so that list masters can
>> remove them from the archive. Please, every DD, dedicate 10 minutes
>> (hopefully more that just once ;) ) of your time to do that: it's
>> boring ok, but will result in a clean archive.
>>
>> More information can be found here:
>>
>> http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam
>> http://lists.debian.org/archive-spam-removals/review/
>> http://lists.debian.org/archive-spam-removals/review/stats.html
>
> Sorry, no time to read these.
if you'd invested 5 minutes, you wouldn't had write this email.
Regards,
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Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
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