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Re: package ownership in Debian



On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:38:52 -0300, Gustavo Franco
<gustavorfranco@gmail.com> said:

> * Promote NMU LowThreshold wiki list giving it some official status.

        What does this mean?

That you're out of date on what's going on and trying to make jokes of
my opinions before reading for a second time.

FYI, http://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu

> For existing packages:

> * The package that contains only the Maintainer field with the name
>   of a person and not a group can be uploaded by any DD. ping the
>   current maintainer is good but not required;

> * If the package contains a group in the Maintainer field and/or a
>   group of people in the Maintainer field or Uploaders. It's
>   required that the uploader ping the group and coordinate his
>   upload.

        Why the disrtinction? If the maintainer is active, and is
 currently working on the package, you have just made matters worse by
 not pinging.  If the team is negligent, why should it be treated
 differently?

I've changed my opinion on this based on what Joerg wrote, already
stated this some messages ago two times.

> I think with something similar to what i wrote above we will end up
> with almost all the packages maintained by groups and some packages
> maintained by Debian as a whole and not individuals.  The next step
> would be groups allowing other groups to upload some of "their"
> packages.

        I am mostly unconvinced that this would improve the quality of
  distribution.

Yes, so let us keep the lack of communication and "my packages, don't
touch team" approach or do you have suggestions for the problems on
the table? Don't you see any problem?

> The core stuff will be more flexible and well maintained, if we
> don't have groups where just one person do all the work and others
> are there just to look cool.

        Why do you think that is not likely to happen?  My experience
 leads to to think that your view point is akin to the island called
 Utopia.


My experience with Debian Python Modules Team, pkg-ltsp and pkg-gnome,
show me that groups, communication in these groups, cooperation from
non DDs are better than "mail me and i'll reply in two weeks...".
Again, my point isn't that every package should be under group (as in
alioth) maintenance, some packages would be under group maintenance as
in Debian under some less restrict rules for NMU along the lines
Joerg's wrote.

regards,
-- stratus



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