On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:43:24PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Yes, most people with Debian experience could work around this but > > it's way beyond most desktop users that don't know what init.d is. > > These people probably won't be able to operate the console anyway, so > a non-X startup isn't going to help them much. I didn't say they would operate through console (although login in in text mode and googling using links is not beyond desktop users) but that a non-X startup with networking would make it possible to remotely support these cases. Yes, I know I can setup all the boxes I want this way. The question is: is this feature useful enough that it can be the default? My (personal) answer is yes and I'm not the only one answering it this way, take a look at other OSes and you'll see the same answer again and again. In this particular case I think the current Debian posture is wrong, not user (or sysadmin) friendly and wouldn't take much to improve upon without forcing everybody to find their own (sometimes flawed) solution to a very common problem. Regards Javier
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