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Re: Bug#292759: shell script sniplets in /usr/bin?



On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 12:28:53AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> 
> > "Because I don't wanna play by the rules!" is not a rationale.
> 
> You are mistaken. I want to play by the rules, but the rules say
> executables should go to /usr/bin, *not* that everything in /usr/bin
> should be executable.

So if I say that you're a reasonable individual, that doesn't mean that
you're *not* a fuckwit?

Typically, in English, when you specify a certain criteria for something,
you implicitly exclude anything not mentioned.  Otherwise I'm going to
recommend that we add /usr/include to the default path, since the FHS
doesn't say I can't put executable commands there -- /usr/bin is only the
"primary directory of executable commands", not the only directory, and
/usr/include doesn't say you can't put commands in there.

Or, alternately, we could read the FHS with our brains set to "reasonable
interpretation" instead of "whatever-as-long-as-I-don't-have-to-do-any-work"
and decide that gettext.sh belongs in /usr/share.

> > So you have to specify a path -- so what?  The way things stand at
> > the moment, if I were to drop a gettext.sh in my ~/bin (which is
> > quite likely, except that I don't like to put a .sh on my helper
> > scripts) your shell scripts would suddenly go tits-up in a most
> > unpleasant fashion.  Personally, *that* would be enough to make me
> > want to hardcode the path.
> 
> The same could be said for an executable called "ls". Exactly the same.

Horseshit.  If I do 'man ls' I can get the semantics for the ls command.  No
such benefit is provided me by gettext.sh.  Hmm, time to report a bug
against gettext-base for not having a manual page for gettext.sh...

> The name "gettext.sh" should be distinctive enough to avoid namespace
> pollution.

Bwahahaha.  It's the name of a common utility with '.sh' on the end.  You
don't think that *someone* isn't going to write a helper script called
gettext.sh?

> OTOH, if you are really worried about namespace pollution,
> then please press the tab key twice while running bash.

Aaaaand, your point being?

- Matt

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