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Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries



On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:06:48PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> Andrew Suffield wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> 
> >> You do realize that the desktop standard has more features than the
> >> debian menu system? Like i18n, icon theming, dynamic construction of a
> >> menu hierarchy based on user /Desktop system preferences and so on? And
> >> that this information would be lost? Why not run it the other way around,
> >> convert the existing debian menu entries to .desktop files and work from
> >> there? I think that this way would help debian on the desktops.
> > 
> > Because you gain *nothing* and introduce a pointless transition.
> 
> The question to solve is: In which format shall application packages store
> their menu information. Users and developers propose following the
> freedesktop standard and using this. Freedesktop standard supporting
> systems are probably used by 90% of all Debian desktop users.

I doubt that is true.

> Now you say: "No let's use the debian menu system, which only we use and
> which is not the default of any major WM". This means losing i18n, dynamic
> construction of menus and icon theming in 90 % of the desktop, because
> Debian menu items do not support these features.

Straw man. We can fairly easily add that stuff.

> How is this logical? How does the freedesktop standard not "gain" us
> features?

Because it's not necessary in order to get those features, and they
can be added more easily in another way.

It's "pass a few more text fields through to the menu methods, and use
them to generate .desktop files" versus "rewrite everything".

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