Re: The term "Custom Debian Distribution" (Was Re: [custom] The term "flavor" and encouraging work on Debian)
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > There are no changes to Debian, because CDDs reside completely in
> > main / testing /unstable as any other package.
>
> _ideally_ there are no changes. In practice there will be. For instance:
> In skolelinux there's currently a package called locale-config-skolelinux
> which sets up de default locale for all users. This package is not part of
> Debian. Instead there's some discussion with the relevant maintainer about
> merging locale-config-skolelinux, language-env, and the different
> user-language packages, with the hope of eventually creating one package to
> set the default locale for both single users and the system as a whole.
Well, at least for my understanding SkoleLinux is not a "Custom Debian Distribution"
exactly because they have packages which are not integrated in Debian. This is
no problem at all, but exactly here is the cruxial point of our definition.
In my talk about CDD in Oslo I suggested the SkoleLinux people to take over
the Debian-Edu ball because Raphael Herzog announced that he was running out
of time. Debian-Edu *is* a CDD because it is completely inside Debian and
the suggestion is that SkoleLinux people patch the packages according to their
needs. The *product* (one bootable CD) which contains Debian-Edu plus some
extra packages which are necessary for whatever reason might be called
SkoleLinux but this is not a CDD per the definition I was using in my talk
in Oslo. There was nobody who disagreed ...
> -> while being a subset is the goal we have in mind, it's not always the
> actual situation. This is a consequence of
> 1. inertia in Debian, because of which getting things changed takes a while
> 2. the fact that some experimentation is often necessary to find the right
> solution, leading to non-optimal solutions that "get the job done" being
> used by the CDD in the meanwhile.
Obviousely we use a different definition of CDD and this is causing the
trouble. If we should agree to your definition of CDD we have to come back
for a common name for Debian-Jr, Debian-Med, Debian-Edu, Debian-Np, ...
Kind regards
Andreas.
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