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Re: Bits from the RM



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On 2003-08-20 15:33, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:11:20PM +0200, cobaco wrote:
> > Note that the RM was talking about servers there, while kde is end-user
> > software, big difference IMHO. Taking into account that kde isn't
> > server-software and that kde won't do release if there are major bugs
> > left I don't think stability should be a problem in this case.
>
> That is both delusional and flat-out wrong.
>
> While I have been a happy KDE user for some time, I'll be the first to tell
> you that it has problems.  For instance, Konqueror is almost completely
> unusable on Alpha because it frequently dies with SIGFPE and draws little
> black boxes instead of text on a number of webpages.

ok, so kde releases are not necessarely stable on the more exotic 
debian-supported architectures. But exactly how is staying with an older kde 
release going to help that? 
I'd agree if there had been a rewrite of kdelibs or something, but kde 3.1 -> 
3.2 is evolutionary without big changes to what was already there.

> Also, I find your argument that breaking desktops is somehow better than
> breaking servers to be rather naive.  
not better, breaking things is never good, but less serious: a crash of a 
server affects all users of that server, a crash of a desktop affects the one 
user using that desktop at that time. What's more when a server crashes the 
users affected are dependend on the server admin to fix things, while on a 
desktop they can take action themselves (like say restart whatever app that 
crashed).

>While the effects of breaking servers can likely be felt farther
agreed

> tne pain of breaking desktops is no less when
> you consider how many more desktops we're talking about here.
that's assuming that all those desktops crash at the same time no?

Out of curiosity (not relevant to the discussion) is it just individual apps 
like konquer that are buggy on alpha or is it also the kde-enviroment?
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Cheers, cobaco

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