Re: upstreams maintainer conflict, was: wget: remove outdated manual page
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Joost Kooij <email@example.com> writes:
> I forward this message to debian-devel because it really shouldn't be
> discussed on debian-user.
Thanks for the forward. For the sake of developers, I will reiterate
For the 1.5 release of Wget, I decided to drop the old manpage from
the distribution. To reiterate, the reasons were:
* The page was old and totally out of synch with Wget. It is enough
work to update one form of documentation (`wget.texi'), let alone
keep the two of them synched up;
* In spite of the very clear out-of-date warning at the beginning of
the page, I received (and still do receive) queries related to the
features documented in the Info manual. When I explain that the
features are documented in the manual, the usual answer is "oh, but
I didn't find it in the man-page";
* Removing it is the right thing to do. No documentation is probably
better than outdated documentation. Given the fact that Wget *is*
documented in the Info manual, the choice was clear;
* The only reason why wget.1 ever existed in the first place was that
I didn't know Texinfo at the time of writing it.
A friend warned me that Debian package of Wget 1.5.0 simply
distributed the old 1.4.5 man page. The new package listed J. Ramos
Goncalves as the package maintainer. After I complained to
debian-users, Mr. Goncalves kindly explained that he was not
responsible for the release, which was done by Nicolas Lichtmaier.
Mr. Lichtmaier, seeing the complains, simply went ahead and "updated"
the man-page (in fact only adding the docs for new switches), but he
left the out-of-date warning! As this man-page was clearly not what I
want to see in Wget, I asked Mr. Lichtmaier to either remove the
man-page from the package (linking it to undocumented(7), as per
Debian policy manual), or to create a simple man page based on `wget
--help' output. I got no response.
Then I wrote this:
> I see that you completely ignored my previous suggestions. Very well.
> I require that you make it damn well obvious that I am in *no way*
> associated with your "updated" man-page and that it is distributed
> with Debian against my explicit wishes.
> Nicolas, thanks to you, this is probably the first time in two years
> of Wget's existence and related correspondence that I have actually
> regretted making Wget free software. Congratulations.
As I still haven't received any further response from Mr. Lichtmaier,
I stand by these words, unpleasant as they are.
Hrvoje Niksic <firstname.lastname@example.org> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia
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