On Fri, Dec 31, 1999 at 12:03:02AM -0800, Robert Woodcock wrote: > Hello, I think TeX and Emacs should no longer be standard. The purpose of > this message is to build a concensus for this so a bug can be filed against > ftp.debian.org to have it done. > > Specifically, these packages should be made optional: > > tetex-lib, tetex-base, tetex-bin, emacs20, emacs20-el, emacsen-common I have no major objections, even if I am starting to use tex more and more. > My reasoning is a large number of Debian users have no use for these > subsystems, therefore they should be add-ons instead of default > infrastructure. I think you might have some objections to moving emacs to optional, but I also think emacs is hardly something that "any reasonable system should have".. I _DO_ think emacs is something that any complete multiuser system should have, but it's not something that should be expected to be there always any more than pico is. > They place a burden on users who do not make use of them, because of their > size and installation time. The debian packages for tetex currently in > standard are 13381KB. The debian packages for emacs20 currently in standard > are 14372KB bytes. TeTeX installs to 33616KB. Emacs 20 installs to 48925KB. This is IMO very good reasoning for making them optional. > Also, if this is to occur, Policy must change. It currently states: > > It doesn't include many large applications, but it does include Emacs > (this is more of a piece of infrastructure than an application) and a > reasonable subset of TeX and LaTeX (if this is possible without X). [2] We need to update that. Would be better to throw out the priority system all together at some point, but for now an update would suffice. -- Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@debian.org> Debian Linux developer http://tank.debian.net GnuPG key pub 1024D/DCF9DAB3 sub 2048g/3F9C2A43 http://www.debian.org 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 Most of us feel that marketing types are like a dangerous weapon - keep 'em unloaded and locked up in a cupboard, and only bring them out when you need them to do a job. -- Craig Sanders
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