a new version of jdk117 from blackdown (v3) has been released. apparently, the problems with glibc2.1 have been resolved, though i haven't checked this out myself. is anybody working on packaging it? can i help? -vinny -- Vincent Murphy | CompSci Undergrad, UCC | theDon@cs.ucc.ie | (086) 8397405 "With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am limited only by my knowledge." --P J Schoenster