Re: moving of dinstall run time on master.
- To: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
- Cc: Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>, Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.north.de>, Debian Devel List <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>, Debian Private <debian-private@lists.debian.org>, Debian Admin <debian-admin@lists.debian.org>
- Subject: Re: moving of dinstall run time on master.
- From: Stephen Crowley <crow@debian.org>
- Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:04:52 -0600
- Message-id: <[🔎] 19990328220452.A10069@stephenc.wf.net>
- Mail-followup-to: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>, Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>, Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.north.de>, Debian Devel List <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>, Debian Private <debian-private@lists.debian.org>, Debian Admin <debian-admin@lists.debian.org>
- In-reply-to: <[🔎] 87pv5t9d4e.fsf@erwin.complete.org>; from John Goerzen on Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 09:41:05PM -0600
- References: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.990328204218.919B-100000@doogie.p2.private.novare.net> <[🔎] 87pv5t9d4e.fsf@erwin.complete.org>
On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 09:41:05PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org> writes:
>
> > > This is the ftpmasters job. You don't have ANY right to change their
> > > work (or their crontabs) as they are still around. You should however
> > > contact them and discuss the issue.
> >
> > I don't have a right? They may own the work, but they don't own the
> > machine(s)(master, teir one mirrors), nor do they pay for the bandwidth.
> > There is no reason to have dinstall run during the day.
>
> Wait a minute. Since when does Novare dictate Debian policy? Why are
> you, or they, forcing decisions on Debian solely by virtue of your
> status as a donor of equipment to Debian?
>
Last I checked the time dinstall runs was not part of policy. Moving the
time will not affect the project at all.
> Once again, Novare people are invoking their status as Debian donors
> as justification for imposing decisions on Debian. Regardless of
> whether the move is justified (I believe it is), you are not the one
> to force this decision on Debian, and the fact that your company
> donates equipment to Debian gives it no special right to control
> Debian. Where does the Constitution, or the SPI Bylaws, state that
> donors have control over Debian affairs?
>
It has nothing to do with the constituion or bylaws, its common sense. If
someone is *donating* something, and they want to change something which
will *not* affect the project and make their lives easier. Then by all
means, it should be done.
> > Moving dinstall's run time involves more than just the ftpmasters. They do
> > NOT run debian. They work FOR debian, and FOR the developers. Because of
> > this, I decided to have broader distribution of this notice.
>
> Novare does not work for Debian or for the developers. Why should
> they make a decision?
>
Because they donate bandwidth and hardware.
> > ps: Let's not forget, how much is donated/loaned to debian.
>
> I am certainly grateful to Novare for that. But that doesn't mean
> that they can dictate Debian policy.
>
This is not part of debian policy, its a matter of convienence.
apt-get install common-sense
E: Couldn't find package common-sense
--
Stephen Crowley
Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org
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