On 01-03-27 Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > I have to disagree with you Dale. > > Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > My point is that bug age does not indicate maintainer appathy. > > No, the lack of uploads and the lack of a maintainer reponse in > > the BTS is the only thing we can go by. > How can there be a "lack of a maintainer reponse" when the maintainer has > never been contacted of the intent to NMU? That is all I'm asking for! Because the BTS is one of the only chances to see if the maintainer is still alive, working on bugs in his packages beneath checking the debian mailing lists. > Contact me BEFORE you upload an NMU, and preferably before you work on > one! > I have no problem, if the maintainer fails to reply, with an NMU. My whole And how long should you wait? Damn, with this argumentation, every maintainer can delay his answer even up to some years. Until we define somewhere in an official document exact timelines for mailings to a maintainer about NMUs and how much time the maintainer has for answering, this will simply not work. So, we have to look at the bugreports in the BTS and check if there are responses from the maintainer. And it's easy to write such a mail within 2 minutes, which still gives you 18 minutes for fixing. > and complete complaint is that I only hear about the NMU after the fact. > My maintainership is being completely ignored, and I might as well go do > something else entirely, as waste my time working on something that > someone else is free to stomp on with no more authority than an old bug > report. No, stop that wrong argumentation. Your maintainership get's only ignored because _you_ don't show any sign of being activate working on the bugs by sending a small note to the BTS. So how shall the other maintainers know that you are not mia or that you are active again? It's also up to the maintainer to show the other maintainers that he's still doing active maintaince of his packages and not the job of all other maintainers to first mail you and hope that you anser fast for NMU'ing the package. Answering all those mails will take more time then 20 minutes, which you may only have for bug fixing. Christian -- Debian Developer (http://www.debian.org) 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853
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