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Re: Woody Progress



On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> * Richard Taylor (soluzar75@lineone.net) [001203 20:49]:
> > > The problem with this line of thinking, i think, is that debian isn't
> > > aimed toward 'joe-average linux-user' .. It's aimed really towards the
> > > debian developers, and others like them. Debian isn't trying to "restore"
> > > themselves, in anyone's eyes. they are going forward as they feel correct.
> > >
> > Ok, if Debian is not aimed at Joe, then why do we bother having a mailing list 
> > where we discuss publicity for the system. I mean, isn't what you are saying, 
> > that we should just stick with the users that we have got? If you are, then 
> > I, for one, cannot agree with you.  
> 
> If Debian is just made for developers then it is a dead end in the first
> place. We would not need a stable release, remember? We aim to be a great
> Distribution and one of our main concerns are the users. So of cause we want
> many happy users. In fact we ultimatly exist to do them good and please them.
> 
> > > Nah, potato just stabilized. just BARELY. We don't need to rush out with
> > > this. I wouldn't even expect seeing the release until at least the end of
> > > 2001. and that doesn't even seem likely to me.
> 
> If it would be just for developers and the like, why care? :-)

Hm. okay, i'm reversing my standpoint on this. Let's do go for more
frequent releases, and all that fun hooky hoohah.

> > In closing, I'd like to ask another (related) question. Is there some 
> > particular piece of software that you think Woody is waiting for that will 
> > be here in a years time? GCC 3.0 perhaps? 

I'm still sticking to the install process one. And also, I *REALLY* think
there should be a few 'default' installation sets, so that not everyone
has to spend the hour or so in dselect. and i'm not talking about the
task-* things. Really, the ideal situation for that would be similar to
dpkg --set-selections / --get-selections, most likely using them.

That way, we'd just have to prepare the package lists for these, and you
would have a VERY easy debian install.

And if anything confuses the hell out of the 'joe averages' about debian,
it's the install. I had to walk my wife through it, helping her understand
what things were. It'd be nice to have an option for it, and i don't see
how it could hurt....

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