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Re: [RFC] Measuring skills of a Debian Developer



>>"Eray" == Eray Ozkural (exa) <erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr> writes:

 Eray> That's the idea. But you need to register your ITP's before you package
 Eray> something right?

	Do you have a vasic clue why that is a good idea? 

 Eray> This is just an innocent extension. I will explain the
 Eray> idea below... Please read on.

	I have misgivings on that score already. 

 >> I study economics. One specialisation I do is organisation theory. I
 >> recognise your intention, and all I can tell you is that it doesn't
 >> fit to Debian at all.

 Eray> IMHO this would be more related to sociology than undergrad organisation
 Eray> theory. It is also a field where no seminal work is present.
 Eray> I'd urge you to go ahead and find some papers on peer-review systems
 Eray> if you'd like. Today, I think there's no really great peer-review
 Eray> system that works on interconnected networks.

	peer review system that works on intercoinnected networks? Are
 you merely plugging words together that uyou do not understand? 

 Eray> Let me tell you about an idea now, and you can then decide whether it
 Eray> fits to Debian.

 Eray> The idea is making things in the open. Why is that? Because, as
 Eray> you will have noticed we are interested in the work done rather
 Eray> than authorship!

	So, in order to help in some project, we need a databse of
 skillz to have it in the open? Without a databse things are closed?

 Eray> If people have a way to electronically examine how projects are
 Eray> going, then they can use their volunteer time more efficiently,

	How does a databse of skillz help us see how well projects are
 going? And how exactly is knowing how well a project is going (and
 knowing that such an estimate is not an absolute metric) help one
 efficiently use ones time? Should one not helkp in a project going
 well(Debian)? Should one not help on a project in its infancy? Should
 one not help a project that is foundering? 

 Eray> and more people can work on the projects they want. That's one
 Eray> aspect. Another aspect is about automation. Now, of course you

	A databse of skillz helps us automate projects? 

 Eray> can talk to people and then work on the projects by, you know,
 Eray> using this mailing list. But the point is that mailing lists
 Eray> aren't an efficient and reliable way to do that.  That's why

	A database of skillz is an efficient way of communicating?
 Incidentally, email list are more reliable (and arguably, efficient)
 thanpagers, IRC, OCQ, and phone tag games. 

 Eray> there's BTS and WNPP in the first place, you can point out to
 Eray> better examples I'm sure.

	And why is the BTS a more efficient communications medium than
 a mailing list?

 Eray> How do we do that?

	Oh, very entertaining, so far.

 Eray> What kind of an infrastructure is suitable for that?

	A big huge databse, with fast access, and easy for people to
 fill in when they have tiem to spend.

 Eray> Ultimately, I'm convinced that this is something that we
 Eray> wouldn't be able to figure out in a short time.

	A) speak for yourself. B) it is nice to see when some one
  knows their own limitations.

 Eray> It's probably a difficult problem.

	_probably_?

 Eray> But of course we can make a minimal set of infrastructure tools
 Eray> to aid in development.

	Of course, it would help if we had a goal that was served by
 this exercise, but don't let that stop you now. 

 Eray> The thing is that the system should not care who it is dealing
 Eray> with.  So basically, there won't be "someone" assigning you "a
 Eray> task". You'd just register if you're looking for some project
 Eray> to work in your volunteer time. As I said, like the GNU task
 Eray> list. You shouldn't have to register or it shouldn't be a
 Eray> strict requirement to get things done. [***]

	Oh, I see, No oe assigns you to a task, you just register. So
 this databse is an information sink? Who uses this  information, if
 anyone? 

	This was wonderful comic relief. Please continue.

	manoj
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