You are copied on this message because you raised objections noted by the policy editors during the discussion of menu policy or seconded the proposal in #707851. The TC is currently evaluating a request to review that proposal and the process surrounding it. If you seconded the proposal, I'd like to confirm that as part of your second, you believed that there was rough consensus and that objections that were raised had been addressed. That is, please confirm that you evaluated not just the quality of the proposal, but also evaluated the discussion. If you have any outstanding objections to the proposal, I'd appreciate you letting the TC know about those as well. Hi, folks. I took on the task of agreeing to evaluate the seconds expressed in #707851. to do that I grabbed the mbox and looked for seconds within it. I see seconds from: Cyril Brulebois (who did not second the media handling portion) Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer Charles Plessy Russ Allbery however, in reviewing the bug log, I found a specific set of concerns that Bill raised in his role as policy editor: After reviewing the buglog, I found there are a number of objection raised by various developers that have not been addressed. This is a list of MSGID which have not received proper consideration: <20130512130335.GA4720@client.brlink.eu> <20130512100730.GA10956@yellowpig> <52E3BDE3.80707@gambaru.de> <20140125151743.GA25531@khazad-dum.debian.net> <52EE6A15.8090003@gambaru.de> I'll take each of those messages and comment: <20130512130335.GA4720@client.brlink.eu> "Bernhard R. Link" <brlink@debian.org> Argument that the default should be show everything rather than only show some applications. basically an argument that show everything would be a better default and that it is valuable that the menu is consistent across environments. Indicated he'd be OK with dropping menu and using XDG provided that the policy was that items are shown in the XDG menu unless there is a technical reason not to. My reading of this message is that in order to reach consensus the question of whether showing all applications in the menu would need to be considered by the policy process. My strong suspicion is that issue was discussed and that Bernhard was in the rough and that most people involved in the discussion considered the arguments in favor of displaying all applications in the menu, but did not agree with his position. <20130512100730.GA10956@yellowpig> bill wonders how many Window Managers support XDG. So, the process would need to consider Window Managers that do not support XDG in order to reach consensus with this message. Bill also questions the behavior of GNOME, but that doesn't seem to be a part of the policy discussion. <52E3BDE3.80707@gambaru.de> Markus Koschany is concerned about making sure the Debian menu system is mentioned in the policy to support the efforts of folks that are working with it. The proposal was changed in response to his concerns and he confirmed he was happy with the text. <20140125151743.GA25531@khazad-dum.debian.net> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> Seconds Markus's desire that the policy mention the menu system. <52EE6A15.8090003@gambaru.de> markus is clarifying his concern.
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