Bug#119517: marked as done (pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package)
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From: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
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Subject: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package
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Package: pcmcia-cs
Version: 3.1.29-3
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 12.8.1
cardinfo depends on X shared libraries. Falsifying the package's
dependencies by shifting the shared library dependency on xlibs to a
Suggests isn't good enough.
Please split cardinfo out into a separate package.
To smooth upgrades you could make 2 new packages, say "cardinfo" and
"pcmcia-cardservices" and have pcmcia-cs depend on both of them.
Or you could just have pcmcia-cs Suggest cardinfo and expect people to
install it manually. How exactly you go about complying with Policy
12.8.1 is up to you.
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For history of this resolution, see earlier postings on the tech ctte
list. The committee has voted as follows:
Bdale FD, B, A
Ian A, FD, B
Manoj B, FD, A
Wichert A, FD, B
Dale no response
Guy no response
Jason no response
Raul no response
The result of this a tie between A and FD. I hereby use my casting
vote as Chairman to resolve the tie in favour of A. For full details
of how the vote is counted, see below. I'll respond separately to the
points people have made alongside their votes, to try to keep this
this results message as short as it can be.
Therefore, the Technical Committee has passed the following
resolution:
1. It is generally bad for programs to fail due to run-time
linkage failures, in most cases. There may however be other
tradeoffs involved that make this a reasonable choice.
2. In this particular case, splitting the package introduces a level
of administration and other overhead which outweighs the minor
ugliness of the run-time linker error message.
3. We therefore agree with the package maintainer that pcmcia-cs
should remain one package, with cardinfo included.
4. The bug report should be closed with no action.
I am closing the bug report with this message and will update the
committee webpages.
Thanks to everyone for participating and for generally managing to
keep the conversation civilised despite strong feelings (which I think
are fair enough even if I disagree with the content).
Ian.
Vote counting
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Firstly - constitution A.3(1) - we select either A or B as the `most
preferred form' (henceforth P), or choose FD. This is to be done by
the Condorcet method from A.6 (misspelled Concorde in the
constitution).
First, we calculate which options dominate others according to A.6(2):
Ballots A to FD Ian, Wichert
which prefer FD to A Manoj, Bdale neither FD nor A dominates
FD to B Ian, Wichert, Bdale
B to FD Manoj FD dominates B
A to B Ian, Wichert
B to A Manoj, Bdale neither A or B dominates
So according to A.6(3) we eliminate B because it is dominated by FD.
This leaves us with a choice between FD and B, and the ballots have
decayed to A, FD (Wichert, Ian) and FD, A (Manoj, Bdale). This is
a tie, which my casting vote resolves.
(Other interpretations of the counting system have similar results.)
Secondly - constitution A.3(2) - we decide whether the most preferred
form A beats FD by enough to pass. Again, we have the same two pairs
of ballots: Yes, No/FD (Wichert, Ian) and No/FD (Manoj, Bdale).
Again I use my casting vote again to make Yes win.
Thirdly, according to A.6(8) we check for the quorum, which is two
according to 6.3(1). There were at least two votes which prefer the
winning option (A) to the default option (FD), so the quorum is
reached.
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